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  • EditSimple Tbol run

  • RBN   •   Wed, Feb 22nd, '17 06:49   •   12 replies, 375 views

Cycle layout

WeekTBOL
180mg/per day
280mg/per day
380mg/per day
480mg/per day
580mg/per day
680mg/per day
780mg/per day
880mg/per day

Description, concerns and expectations

Age: 39
Weight: 210lbs
Calories: 3000
Bodytype: Ecto/thin frame, weight prior to lifting 140lbs
BF:around 16%
Protein per day 300-350 grams
Macro split %: 30c/30f/40p
Years training 8
Last cycle Test + EQ 2 years ago (I think)
Previous cycles test + dbol, test + deca

I CRUISE YEAR ROUND ON 125MG TEST EVERY 4TH DAY (so 3 days in between each shot), mostly for quality of life reasons as my natty test production is low (diagnosed by doctor, prior to steroid use, I now choose to self administer). Obviously I will continue to do so while I run the Tbol.

Training schedule:3 day split with 15mins cardio on non training days (tried loads of variations over the years, my body responds best to low frequency training with lots of rest days, even on cycle)

Reasoning behind cycle: Started a light cut (dropped from 3500kcal to 3000 and dropped my carbs %) going well, stomach where I carry most of my B/F losing size nicely. Decided to run some Tbol having read some logs from guys using it on a cut with reduced carbs to good effect and I had some laying around.

If nothing else it'll be interesting to see what happens and how i react to Tbol.

Goals from Tbol use: Retain, maybe even gain a little muscle whilst on the cut. I dont expect it to increase my fat loss.

Duration: 6-8 weeks depending on how it's going.

Dosage 80mg per day, split into 4 throughout day.

Constructive/helpful suggestions welcomed.

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  • freedom1981's picture
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  • freedom1981
  • 9 months ago

hey bro , first i want to ask , did you put yourself on TRT or by the docotor ? and how you decided that your test level is low ? except if you didnt do any proper PCT after your old cycles .
about tbol , do you take dbol by it self or you stick it with test ? tbol same as dbol but will keep you dry not reserve water in your body and should be from 40mg up to 60mg per day the best safe way , and as the other said tbol with your low dosage test do nothing , so increase your test at least for 400mg per week with tbol for 6 weeks , this what i have for you .

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  • stairmaster
  • 9 months ago

80mgs are too much, makes no sense for me to run tbols so high . 40mgs are enough, increase your test a little bit! reduce to 6wks and btw, tbols are no 'fat killing' roid!

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After a lot of reading it seemed that 80mg was the go-to figure, very few people were recommending lower dosages and those that did seemed up still end up increasing the dose after a few weeks.

Of course I always wonder exactly what percentage of their 80mg was active compound, with mine being UGL I have no way of really knowing either.

Can you tell me your reasoning.

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  • Makwa
  • 9 months ago

I see more benefit in bumping your test up a little bit and adding in some provi. No need to whack up you lipids and liver for a little bit of fat loss. Up the cardio crack down on the diet. Tbol is not a fat loss pill.

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Thanks for the reply. Just for the sake of clarity I'm not thinking the Tbol is a fat loss aid, nor am i looking to increase my fat loss with it. My diet it going well and fat loss is happening of it's own accord (fast metabolism and a general dislike of food helps a lot), plus a 6% loss would be more than enough.

My thinking was more along the lines of maintaining/increasing muscle a little whilst being on a cut without increasing injection volume and using stuff I already have.

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  • Rustyhooker
  • 9 months ago

Self prescription? Bloodwork? Dose?

Post a picture.

  • RBN's picture
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Self prescription? Low test was GP diagnosed, but I choose to self administer.
Bloodwork? No, good point. Will ask my GP tomorrow.
Dose? Not sure which you are asking for? Test and Tbol are listed.
Post a picture That's one thing I'm really not into, I shall politely decline.

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  • Goose24
  • 9 months ago

Self prescribed PCT?

Fill in Your stats you've been here since 2011.

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PCT wise I've not run any ever due to being on Test year round, so didn't expect to have to this time round either. Is that not the case?

Stats are filled, didn't even know that was a thing.

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  • Goose24
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  • @RBN

Lol sorry my bad on the misspell

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  • Goose24
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  • @RBN

Been here for 6 years and didn't know your stats mattered?

You also didn't answer my question...

Did a doctor prescribe your TRT (testosterone replacement therapy) or did you?

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Yep I know they matter that's why they are in the thread. Didn't know there was somewhere to fill them in.

TRT, sorry fella looked like you were asking about PCT