posted Wed, 08/08/2012 - 19:11
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Second Cycle turned into two cycles :D
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
with the gear that I have now, I built two cycles instead of one 
thanks for the input guys, always learning...
| Week | Test E | HCG | Anastrozol | Nolvadex | Clomid | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1(My 2nd Cycle) | 500(or 600)mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 2 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500(or 600)mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 3 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500(or 600)mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 4 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500(or 600)mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 5 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500(or 600)mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 6 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500(or 600)mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 7 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500nmg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 8 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 9 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 10 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 11 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 12 (My 2nd Cycle) | 500mg | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | |||
| 13 (My 2nd Cycle) | ||||||
| 14 (My 2nd Cycle) | ||||||
| 15 (My 2nd Cycle) | 40 mg ED | 100 mg ED | ||||
| 16 (My 2nd Cycle) | 40 mg ED | 100 mg ED | ||||
| 17 (My 2nd Cycle) | 20 mg ED | 50 mg ED | ||||
| 18 (My 2nd Cycle) | 20 mg ED | 50 mg ED | ||||
| Week | Test Prop | HCG | Anastrozol | Nolvadex | Clomid | Masteron |
| 1 (My 3rd Cycle) | 100 mg ED | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | 100 mg ED | ||
| 2 (My 3rd Cycle) | 100 mg ED | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | 100 mg ED | ||
| 3 (My 3rd Cycle) | 100 mg ED | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | 100 mg ED | ||
| 4 (My 3rd Cycle) | 100 mg ED | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | 100 mg ED | ||
| 5 (My 3rd Cycle) | 100 mg ED | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | 100 mg ED | ||
| 6 (My 3rd Cycle) | 100 mg ED | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | 100 mg ED | ||
| 7 (My 3rd Cycle) | 100 mg ED | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | 100 mg ED | ||
| 8 (My 3rd Cycle) | 100 mg ED | 250 iu (2/week) | 0.25 mg E3D | 100 mg ED | ||
| 9 (My 3rd Cycle) | 40 mg ED | 100 mg ED | ||||
| 10 (My 3rd Cycle) | 40 mg ED | 100 mg ED | ||||
| 11 (My 3rd Cycle) | 20 mg ED | 50 mg ED | ||||
| 12 (My 3rd Cycle) | 20 mg ED | 50 mg ED |
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The above works if theres 16Weeks between the two. Simple Nice add of muscle for winter....hit cutter near spring and loik good outdoors. Do calendar work first so you have proper time on/off....and cutter mid spring. If bf is below 10% then its cool. Stairs n food
6 Weeks masteron......
zewiBetter but I’m with Viking on this.. Also HCG take 250iu a week through the cycle IMO but if you want to blast it at the end that’s up to you. I think it’s a waste to blast. I only recommended it if your didn’t take a PCT or your PCT gear was not GTG..
however,
I think you are trying to much at once.. You could have 2 really nice cycles here. And IMO would get a lot more out of it..
I think you need to look at the Gear you have and get the most of it. If this is the Gear I have this is what i would do.
Cycle 1 Eat right Diet Diet Grow..
1-12 Test E @ 500mg a week(or 600mg)
arimidex .25mg ever third day, if your nipples get sore go to .5mg e3d if still sore go to .5mg ed
PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
time off
Cycle 2 cut it up...
1-8 Test P @ 100mg EOD
1-8 Masteron @ 100mg EOD
arimidex .25mg ever third day, if your nipples get sore go to .5mg e3d if still sore go to .5mg ed
PCT
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
thanks for the input buddy, updated. Yes I have test E, test prop, Mast and PCT gear on hand and was trying to build just one cycle out of it lol. just one question thought, how much time off between the two cycles above? 3 months?
zewi3 will do it..
Good luck!... still too much imo for second cycle... length is 4wk too long i hope you recover good and fast after this... just cannot see the point of running mast unless you are on a full blown cutter.... ah well your choice your body.
I guarentee you finish with poor or no results.
Bin the HCG 3wks is pointless and a waste of cash.
updated, thanks bro
You can shorten to 14 and run masteton for 6 Weeks. Don't run hcg in your pct. High estro conversion so yoyr fighting your own pct goals. If ya wanns run hcg 6-12 should keep you plumped.
updated
Just opionion but think your adex or diet caused both. Viking is perfection diet guru.
1-4prop 100eod
1-12 test e 500 split
8-14 var.....ONLY IF DOWN TO 8% bf.. Or its a waste. Finishers only....finish.
Aromasin doesnt have the adex/estro rebound. 12.5 Ed when estro appears.
Food is your cutter...the gym is your bulker. Super clean eating and you'll look mah-velous!!
how do add masteron to that?
zewiyou really want it all in this cycle dont you...
updated
Masteron is a finisher just like var. Making muscles hard won't show at all thru body fat. Which goes right back to diet first. Hope later vike rolls back thru for diet info for ya. His eating plan can get the bf below 10% prior to cycle. Then it's 50Mg eod on Weeks 8-14. Mast won't shed fat making you look rocky. Clean diet will allow mast to work. Example.....all I've been eating for last 3wks is tilapia...boiled chicken breasts and veggies. High protein. No cheap carbs. Struggle harder to get where i can be natty style.
Will update in a ,moment, Im at work lol
Thanks for the input guys......I'm 31, 5'10", 183 lbs, BF 13%
It's only like adding two compounds from my first cycle. all I'm adding is Mast and the oral Var. or should I drop the Var and keep the Mast. so something like:
Week 1 - 9 : Test E + Mast +adex
Week 10-( 18 or maybe 16): Test prop + Mast+ adex
PCt: Nolva, clomid, HCG
ya bro like VIKING said start over with this cycle idea. I really dont understand going from E to P at the end of a cycle, if your that worried about bloat just run p the whole cycle.....Plus you have anavar in there, so that would cut down on bloat anyways, so would the adex. I also think your chlomid is too high, never been a fan of running it that high, if even running it at all. Also your jumping up the var dosage through the cycle, why? You have no experience with it so why plan on raising dosage, why not just keep it at 50 ? again simple is best your making it more complicated then it has to be......
Yea I'm going from E to P to have a longer cycle and start PCT right after last injection. Since with E you need to wait 2 weeks after last injection, I can win those two weeks injecting prop and start PCT on the same day if I had used E all the way.
I dont have to up my Var , was just an idea and I will keep it at 50 mg
your thinking is backwards, " I can win those two weeks injecting prop and start PCT on the same day if I had used E all the way." You need to start with the prop so you can get the most out of a cycle, the entire reason you wait to start PCT is because the test is STILL IN YOUR SYSTEM. So how would you lose those two weeks? If you start with Prop as kicker then you get those FOUR weeks, so you gain time using it in the beginning, going off your theory of course.......
Bin this and start afresh with some good input from us.
updated
working on it...sent you FR
zewiSo you go from TEST C---too adding Test Prop, Masteron, Anavar so adding 3 new compounds in your second cycle? What about liver support? Pick one not 3 new compounds… IMO I don’t like the cycle at all and I’m thinking about advice I would add instead of raging. Bf?? Age? Height? Weight?
Uncle zewi will be back…
Thanks for the input.....I'm 31, 5'10", 183 lbs, BF 13%
It's only like adding two compounds from my first cycle. all I'm adding is Mast and the oral Var. or should I drop the Var and keep the Mast. so something like:
Week 1 - 9 : Test E + Mast +adex
Week 10-( 18 or maybe 16): Test prop + Mast+ adex
PCt: Nolva, clomid, HC
Maybe your adex was bunk? Keep salt down? This cycle doesnt look good. Please post stats. Bf?? Age? Height? Weight?