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Proposed 2nd cycle. Test E and Var

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Finished 1st ever cycle over the summer and fall. Test E 500mg for 12 weeks. Things went well and I responded to the test the way I hoped. Had a fight with acne the whole time and had some shrinkage in the testes that reversed during pct. Gained about 30 pounds and kept 15 or more after pct. Ran Adex during, clomid and nolva after. Was looking for a bulk and just to see eat the test world 8s all about.

Now looking to add another compound to the mix. Want to keep things real simple.

Goals are gain lean hard mass. Similar weight to my first cycle. Increase vascularity. Increase strength and see how much muscle I can retain after. I want to keep my body fat under 10% with the goal around 8. My diet is in check so shouldn't be too difficult. Especially since I have the habit of burning fat really easy despite if I cheat a bit on diet. Also makes lean gains difficult.

Current stats. About 6 feet. 190 lbs. 10% body fat. 31 years old.

Will be pinning twice a week @250mg. Will be taking Anavar twice a day @40mg. HcG and Adex will be as needed. Milk Thistle for liver support twice a day @500mg

Adjustments for this cycle would be adding hcg possibly for shrinkage. Probably keeping the rest the same.

Question. I plan on stacking the Var for 6 weeks in a 12 week test E cycle. I want to do it at the end of the cycle. Does it make more sense to start week 7 and go to week 12 and stop both. Or should I do something like start around week 9 and stop the Var a couple days before pct.

WeekTestosterone EnanthateAnavarArimidexMilk thistleHCGClomidNolvadex
1500mg1000mg ed
2500mg1000mg ed
3500mg1000mg ed
4500mg1000mg ed
5500mg.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
6500mg.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
7500mg80mg.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
8500mg80mg.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
9500mg80mg.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
10500mg80mg.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
11500mg80mg.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
12500mg80mg.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
13.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
14.25 eod1000mg ed500ui
151000mg ed100mg ed40mg ed
161000mg ed100mg ed40mg ed
171000mg ed50mg ed20mg ed
181000mg ed50mg ed20mg ed
Makwa's picture

If I read this right, you are basically trying to duplicate the gains you made with your first cycle, basically trying to put on another 15-30lbs, but you want to drop from 10% BF down to 8%?

smizz's picture

I'm hoping the fat drops around there. But yes main goal is to add 15-30lbs. And I've been very curious to see what Var is all about. The concept of it adding dense quality muscle with relatively low sides intrigues me. Albeit a slower gain. The body fat I think will come off even without the var. I dropped about 2 or 3 % body fat by the end of my first cycle. And my diet was on point and ate like a horse. Avg about 4k cal a day.

I don't really think I'm ever gonna do a cycle more "intense" than a test and either 1 mild oral or another mild injectable

ChickenBirdOfGains's picture

I would recommend running var for longer then 6 weeks. I have found 8 weeks to be great. Just my opinion.

smizz's picture

So then I wonder if I should do the 8 weeks by adding Var up to pct.

Weightlifter's picture

If you feel lethargic on Var, try dropping to dose down a little. My first go I tried to run it at 80mg ED and noticed I was feeling run down. I dropped to 50mg ED and felt a lot better. The pumps were still out of this world, and i got a lot stronger. I also noticed an even bigger strength gains the second time I ran it, which i added 2.25g of creatine HCL to the mix. I can't remember off hand, but I believe it (the Var) increases the amount phosphocreatine production/stores in your muscles. Maybe one of the vets can chime in on that.