posted Sun, 04/23/2017 - 05:55
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+ 2 Planning stages First cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
6ft 1
235
18%BF
Powerlifter, looking for strength increase. waiting on bloodwork to come back. looking for opinions on planned cycle
Current Weights
Squat 475
Bench 315
Deadlift 535
Precycle blood work results(estrogen results not back yet)
Test 591.00 ng/dL 280.00-800.00
Free Test 1.15 ng/dL 0.71-1.85
Prolactin 20.90 ng/mL 3.70-17.90
Everything else came back normal
| Week | Testosterone C | Adex | Nolvadex | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 300mg 2xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 2 | 300mg 2Xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 3 | 300mg 2Xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 4 | 300mg 2Xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 5 | 300mg 2Xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 6 | 300mg 2xWeek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 7 | 300mg 2Xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 8 | 300mg 2Xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 9 | 300mg 2Xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 10 | 300mg 2Xweek | .25mg EOD | ||
| 11 | .25 EOD | |||
| 12 | .25 Eod | |||
| 13 PCT Start | 20mg 2xday | 50 Daily | ||
| 14 | 20mg 2xday | 50 mgDaily | ||
| 15 | 20mg Daily | 25mg Daily | ||
| 16 | 20mg Daily | 25mg Daily | ||
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if you're a powerlifter you're definitely gonna want to check into an oral, probably dbol since its your first blast and WAY later down the road look into halo..
enjoy the road and the gains brother +
My Question to you is why??? Why look in to an oral for his first blast. A test only cycle isn't good enough these days. How is he going to carry that water weight with dbol. I find it kinda of confusing dbol and Test for a first cycle. What benefits is he going to have using dbol, once he stops taking it he's going to loose it all anyways. Test only cycle would be my vote.
Don't know who down voted yea I understand your trying to help out but think about the outcome.
So your advice to this guy is to add an oral to a first cycle just because he says hes a powerlifter? What happens when his estrogen goes through the roof and he doesn't know what to do? Not the best advice bro.
i was thinking of just running test for my first cycle and adding something like dbol in my second
That would be the smartest thing to do.
I'm glad to hear it. Take it slow and see how your body responds to a test only cycle.
1st cycle at 600mgs of test? I would probaby start at 400mg you dont need much. Starting at 600mg you will be at a gram too soon.
Alright. Thanks
Just saying your first cycle you can grow the best. Its like doing drugs and getting your first high. You dont need much because your body isnt used to it. Just see how your body reacts first. I gained over twenty pounds first cycle easy. Just on 400mgs
Right on man. thanks
Also why is your prolactin high?
I was on a medication for along time that my Dr. said would cause this. I recently got off it so time will tell
Pct looks weird to me. might want to do more research. Also I prob wouldn't start adex from day one and you may or may not need it at all everyones different. Bloodwork Bloodwork Bloodwork.
Edit Just saw that you pct starts immediately after cycle. PCT should start two weeks after last shot. You need to do more research.
I would do 6.25 ed of aromasin more than likely be no need to bump it up, 6.25 ed starting about day 25 of cycle, pct will be nolva and clomid something like this.
Clomid-100-50-50-50
Nolva-60-40-40-40-20
Would you suggest taking the 100mg does of clomid at once or spilt it up twice a day?
No point splitting it up twice a day. Clomiphene citrate has a half life of 5 to 7 days.
https://www.drugs.com/mmx/clomiphene-citrate.html#citec00115701
It looks like it is set up to start two weeks after, although without bloods it's probably safer starting PCT 3 weeks after the last pin to prevent hypogonadism because with the half life of cyp it's unlikely it'll be completely cleared in only two weeks. Enanthate maybe but cypionate, it's unlikely.
It's never bad to start pct too early, but always bad to start it too late. Test cyp is usually out the system in 17-21 days. I've always started early and still ran it out a little bit longer to be safe. Bloods have showed positive every time this way.
I'll move it to three weeks and I will be getting more blood work done.