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-1 Oral-Turinabol only cycle (1st cycle)

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Low to moderately dosed OT-only cycle for 7 weeks

Goals/Expectations:
- adding 2..5 kg of lean body mass
- increase strength to advance through bodyweight progressions
- growing back some neglected muscles
- evaluating the effect of OT on me
- evaluating the effect of increased T levels on me

Stats@day1 : BW = 82.5 kg, BFP = 14.7%
Stats@day21: BW = 86.5 kg, BFP = 15.5%

On-cycle liver/lipid support: Liv-52 4 pills/d, Fish-oil 6g/d, Multivitamins 800% RDA
PCT: Clomid 50mg/d for 3 wks, L-citrulline malate
OCT: DAA 3.7g/d for 3 wks (NAC + some, will update)

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ziabungle's picture

Barely touch orals any longer. Back in the pro hormone days we would run oral only. Screwed up my liver values. Be safe, run inj.

4ce's picture

I will have bloodwork on liver-values done at week 6 of cycle. Right before starting clomid and one week before last T-Bol intake.

4ce's picture

I tried to get that straight before starting AAS. Determining my BMR through formulas and bio-impedance scale (actually coming incredibly close by +- 50kcal) and adapting for activity level and increased protein synthesis.

My initial goals for this cycle changed and emphasis is now towards adding mass.

Crash0731's picture

Orals only? Then clomid as PCT? Wow this sounds like a dumb idea. You need a test base. I'd do like 4-500 test for 8 to ten weeks if it's your first cycle. If you're experienced ( I don't think you are) you run what you want but never...I mean never never do orals only that's retarded.

IrishMack's picture

Basically you want to look good for 30 days after your oral only cycle. After that its gone. You also misquoted about the German team using it. They did it for a primary reason of not getting big and only moderate strength increase. Tbol is not a mass builder or an add 100 pounds to Your bench. You use it as a compliment to a test or deca or any other cycle.
If you want to shut yourself down for no gains then by all means have at it.

4ce's picture

Thanks for your reply.
You are right. OT's SHBG lowering properties should allow for it stacking well.

In fact OT was a strategic choice for me. As a single agent, it aligned best with my current goals as outlined above. Should my goals shift in the future, than I would prefer stacking Test-E with T-Bol instead of D-Bol (if stacking would be required at all after a Test-E-only cycle).

musclethunder's picture

Orals only? - NO, NO NO!!!!

TrenLiver's picture

Prob won’t notice anything unless you’re doing 60-80mg.
I like tbol but 30mg wouldn’t do a damn thing and would never take it alone and def not as a first.
Why join the site if you’re gonna do what you want anyway? Clearly everyone here recommends Test only for first cycle and u post this tbol only first cycle.
Do me a favor. Log out and don’t come back until you listen from what people have done and real life.

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4ce's picture

Thanks for your reply.
As far as I know the athletes in the DDR (eastern germany doping program) used (0.4 * bodyweight_in_kg) mg.
In theory it aligns well with my set out goals, in praxis (right now, strength-wise) not so much.

tattoofreak's picture

Registered since 2012 and doing a oral only as first cycle? Smh...

House's picture

Your not going to get a whole lot from that not even worth the shutdown. Step your game up like everyone is saying. Real cycle real gainz.

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addicted.to.pain's picture

Many years ago I did a similar cycle, except I used the pro-hormone halodrol it metabolizes into Turinabol . Now It was my very first experience with steroids, I made some decent results over a few months.

The cycle was based with nothing at all i.e. no testosterone no cycle support nothing just like your cycle, and in the end the results I made left just as quickly as they came .

I have learned over the years that your body does not recognize AAS i.e. tbol, winny, tren, nandro or any of the testosterone metabolites as naturaly occurring in the human body, the results are seen as foreign by your body, but testosterone on the other hand your body has naturally occurring so when you run high levels of test to build muscle your system will tend to hold on to these results more as your body does not see them as over all foreign.

So it would be wise to base your cycle with testosterone, as tbol will shut you down . Do some research dude lot and lots of research

4ce's picture

Thank you very much for sharing your personal experience @addicted.to.pain.
I will consider your ideas.

4ce's picture

Hi Rusty!
Registered in 2012, not actively using this side besides the quarterly gazing-in-awe at enhanced physiques. I have just updated my info by the way.

kodiakGRRL's picture

how do you know he wasn't gazing at me when I used to post pics? ;-)

kodiakGRRL's picture

I could make that happen

4ce's picture

Thank you for your feedback.
As I have stated under goals and description, I did not intend to grow like I could have with a starter Test-E cycle.
Furtabol not being available, OT looked like a good choice for my goals as described above and in my info.

Blaaahdk's picture

Dude you should really spend some time Reading up on a test only cycle for your first run instead of an oral only cycle its just not worth it because og of the massive shot Down and lenght of the cycle is not Good . I know its Kinda scary with the needles but you Will Get used to it and you liver Will not take so much of a beating . Just my two cents have a Nice evening

4ce's picture

Hey Blaaahdk.

You got me on the needle part... partially.
I have researched AAS in general and the ones aligning with my current goals were T-Bol, Stanozolol, Furtabol and possibly TestP.
I could see me pinning e7d on first cycle, but eod not so.

Thank you for reminding me to have liver values checked close to PCT in order to evaluate short-term effects.

Have a great day.

Blaaahdk's picture

Its not to be rude or anything but if you have done your Reading as you say dude . Then Im sorry but back and hit the books No one Will co-sign on a oral only cycle or give you any sort of advice other than maybe What Everyone is telling you to drop it read up on a test only cycle . You should Do What is proven and tested by so many . Have a great Day dude

Makwa's picture

Why man? There is so much good info on here about setting up a proper first cycle and you decide to run a tbol only cycle?? I don't get it??

4kg in 3 wks on 30mg of tbol. I think your tbol is something else.

4ce's picture

Thank you for your reply.
I know the general recommendation for the TestE/C-only with full Dr. Scally / Llewellyn / PCT / OCT first cycle (and it is very good for bodybuilders).

I have decided against the recommendation, as my goals are different from solely adding mass.
Should this change in the future, I still feel more comfortable having researched the agents in isolation, here TBol and Clomid - allowing me to pinpoint adverse effects savely (KISS principle).

tattoofreak's picture

Probably dbol and it's just water