ODIN CYCLE FROM RB
**Cycle updated with dosage amounts and compounds. Click on the second image since I could not upload the excel sheet. Really appreciate all the discussion and information you guys have provided thus far.
Plan on running 12 week cycle mapped out by a consultant of RB’s for new service they are offering. Consultant was very knowledgeable and RB has always been helpful. Consultant and RB both have been quick to answer questions, especially the consultant since I have had several questions with this cycle layout
Currently weigh 197 and plan on putting on some good lean muscle and drying out toward end which I will add later. Had some concerns initially with NPP dose and prolactin/gyno issues but after discussing with the consultant we decided to stick with the plan. Have experience with all the compounds but never this combo. I will keep everyone posted as cycle continues and if adjustments are made. Looking forward to trying the Odin lab from RB.
Will be doing bloodwork and make adjustments as needed. Will have aromasin or adex on hand just in case and possibly caber if needed. Prefer not to use AI if not necessary.
| Week | Test cyp | NPP | Mast |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 250mg | 450mg | 300mg |
| 2 | 250mg | 450mg | 300mg |
| 3 | 250mg | 450mg | 300mg |
| 4 | 250mg | 450mg | 300mg |
| 5 | 250mg | 450mg | 300mg |
| 6 | 250mg | 450mg | 300mg |
| 7 | 250mg | 450mg | 300mg |
| 8 | 250mg | 450mg | 300mg |
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Just dropping in for an update on this cycle. So far been really pleased with how things are going and actually surprised thus far how much I’m liking it.
Up around 6lbs in morning. Pumps are getting better every workout and lasting longer. Certainly more filled out and strength is creeping up. Noticeable increase in aggression and surprisingly to me my sex drive is thru the roof. Not what I was expecting with the NPP dosed where it is in the cycle.
Overall very happy with the plan and communication from the consultant that is helping along with support from RB. Looking forward to another week of solid training and appreciate all the support. If anyone has questions or feedback please DM me or comment.
Happy Memorial Day everyone and hope it’s a safe one
Any updates? Thanks!
Just over a week in and can say the oils are smooth and had no issues with pip even with the frequency of injections with short esters. Still early but sex drive is up. Pumps and vascularity are starting to get better with each workout. I’ll keep try to post once or twice a week with updates. Any questions or feedback I am open for discussion!! Cheers
AnonAwesome bro!
If you want to run 250 test go ahead
But dont blame it on holding water on 500 mg test.
Unless you plan on doing no cardio..
If you want to run 250 test you'll be fine. more is not always better contrary to popular belief. With the other two compounds you are running you should still make gains and lean out as long as your diet is on point.
Give it a try and see what happens.
Thanks for checking it out and letting me know. So far that is the plan and I’m sticking to it. I’ll update the full cycle in an excel spreadsheet tomorrow.
I’m just always used to running my test at a 2:1 or 1:1 ratio of test to a 19-nor. Thanks again for feedback. Diet and training already on point. Gyms back open here thankfully. Be safe
You may be surprised at how it turns out. Good luck on the cycle.
Enjoying it way more than expected
I ran 500 mg testE 400 npp and 400 mast it was a great run
What's the reason for such low test bud?
I thought the same thing originally press. Do not quote me on this but I believe the consultant and myself discussed this and with trying to stay lean I believe he has the test dose dialed back to keep water weight down but enough to keep the dick working lol. This is where I feel the masteron will kick in (at least in theory lol) to help keep me dry as well but also help the test.
First time doing a run like this and was open minded. RB’s consultant could prolly comment in more detail. I am excited and nervous at same time as I have never ran this high of a dose with NPP. I will keep everyone posted weekly at least on strength weight mood etc.
What’s your thoughts on it press?
josipgatesmakes no sense such a low test buddy,that is very bad setup for a cyce...you are just bit above trt..who cares about extra water it will come down later when u cut down,but on 500 mg u would have lot better results and add more lean mass...in my opinion compound that shpud always be the highest is the test as it is the most natural hormone in our body and least toxic like zero ...and keep in mind nandrolone is 11 times more damaging to blood vessels then testosterone. with added mast if your test is 500mg u will still stay dry and lean
BluesHere you go bro,
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/19-nor-prolactindeca-t...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/19-nor-prolactindeca-t...
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/19-nor-prolactindeca-t...
You are the man!!! Thanks a ton bro!! I’ll be sure to read over
BluesSure brother. I think your cycle is solid. i will be waiting to see the result.
BluesI beg to differ brother. I think the layout actually makes sense. Keeping the Test low is to prevent sides but keep estro levels at a healthy number especially when there is Mast in the picture to provide enough Androgen.
Old timers used to run Nandrolone solo with Dbol without any Test. And there is a knowledgeable member here on eroids who did a whole experiment with Nandrolone and Test and he arrived at the same conclusion. I will look for it and post the links
But he isn't running any Dbol is he - Of course running Deca with Dbol is easier with low test. They ran Test lower back then because of all the estrogen created by the Dbol!
500mg/wk of Test is still going to barely cause any sides to speak of, we are talking about him making better gains with slightly more testosterone available and performing much better in the gym.
How have you felt when running cycles with 250mg/wk of Test?
BluesBrother, More is not always better. It is about the entirety of the plan. I have noticed at the bottom he says he is injection EOD which means he is getting more then 450mg of NPP and more than 300mg of Mast so in total with the Test he is injecting more than a gram of gear per week. Your natural body production of androgen is 70-100 mg if you're lucky so you do the math. is there going to be gains, absolutely and ofcourse it will depend on his diet and training. As for estro, 250mg of Test is more than enough to provide good aromitization even with the presence of Mast.
Thanks for the advice, but LOGIC dictates that he will get better results on 500mg test than 250. The body produces 49 mg of Test/wk at its very peak but that is irrelevant here especially as he has done various cycles previously, and the bodies own testosterone is much more effective than synthetic versions.
BluesBro, Tes is NOT the only player here, and gains do NOT only depends on Test levels. And btw natural production is not 49mg per week, it is around 10 mg per day. Cheers brother.
josipgatesgreat explain here buddy
maybe he will understand soon what are we talking about and reconsider to change the cycle and get more out of it with also minimum sides if any
I appreciate all the feedback. It’s a good way for the entire Eroids community to chip in or learn something. Hell I could always try something on another cycle. Discussions like this help me lol. I’m really stoked to see how things do turn out and will be getting bloodwork along the way.
On another note no PIP from any of the Odin oils. Have used both 25 and 23g pins with no issues. Smooth as butter
Did you get any Tabs at all mate?
I did. I have 50mg winny tabs that will be used in the last part of the cycle and changing over to test prop as well. You will see it in the cycle sheet I’ll upload today
You'll get some great results from those Bad boys - Winny also acts as an anti-progesterone which will aid in running the NPP. You'll feel really good off them, I use to run the Inject version a bit when running heavy tren as it made it much more tolerable mood wise. The winny will also really drop the water out ....
I do understand that it's to keep water weight down to a bare minimum - But I think the difference would be so marginal, visibly between 250 and 500mg/wk that you are going to feel so much better mentally and physically on the higher end. I've seen others run this kind of low dose with tren and I honestly do not know how people do it, I realise it would keep you functioning sexually but what about having enough energy to train and recuperate. I know you are nowhere near new to cycling so would even say I think 600mg/wk would be best but of course try it first and see, everyone is unique in the way they respond to compounds and doses :-)
josipgatesi was also thnking the same very bad setup for a cycle...250mg is just above trt and at least 500mg he would have better results and add more lean mass,who cares about some water that comes off later anyway...but with mast even at 750mg that i always do he would not hold too much water at all
Both of you bring up good points and I have always been on the side of my test being at or higher than the other compound in cycle. As I mentioned this is new to me and wanted to change things up. I’ll get with the consultant who worked with me on it and see what his feedback is.
Cheers guys and thanks so much for all the input and feedback. I’ll keep ya posted when I hear back
josipgatesWhen did holding water become such an enemy of cutting fat that we sacrifice progress to avoid it,but with mast and good diet u wont hold any.. . 500mg test is going to help you cut fat more than 250 and the water falls off later if its even significant to begin with..cycle setup is not good at all...hope u think about this bro! good luck buddy