posted Mon, 09/02/2013 - 16:38
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
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| Week | NPP | Sustanon | Winstrol | Caber | Aromasin | Nolva | Clomid |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 300mg | 750mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | |||
| 2 | 300mg | 750mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | |||
| 3 | 300mg | 750mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | |||
| 4 | 300mg | 750mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | |||
| 5 | 300mg | 750mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | |||
| 6 | 300mg | 750mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | |||
| 7 | 300mg | 750mg | 50mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | ||
| 8 | 300mg | 750mg | 50mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | ||
| 9 | 300mg | 750mg | 50mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | ||
| 10 | 300mg | 750mg | 50mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | ||
| 11 | 300mg | 750mg | 50mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | ||
| 12 | 300mg | 750mg | 50mg | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | ||
| 13 | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | |||||
| 14 | 0.5 E3D | 12.5 EoD | |||||
| 15 | 12.5 EoD | 20mg | 100mg | ||||
| 16 | 12.5 EoD | 20mg | 100mg | ||||
| 17 | 6.25 EoD | 10mg | 50mg | ||||
| 18 | 6.25 EoD | 10mg | 50mg |
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mosaku3Hey monk can you delete my old acounts for me?
Pm me bro
mosaku3Pm sent, and thank you for the fast reply much appreciated
Im intrested in the caber and aromasin, why both ? How did you find the effects of these Pct s ?
I have yet to try exemastane and very keen to know more
Just wanted to drop a massive thank here you to everyone who took the time to bang out some really valuable advice and info, wether through comments here or PM's. I listened and took it all in, I'll be sure to apply it the best way I can.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
The first round of beers are on me @ the Eroids Xmas party
I will comment alone on the caber amounts. I don't think you will need .05 e3d. Unless you know that you are really predisposed to excess prolactin issues. This caber thing as become quite a fad imo, I have used it before I got on aas due to a benign pituitary tumor. I will say that this drug can have issues over the long term. I would first get bloods before and mid cycle to see where your prolactin levels are at. If not I would run it at .05 a week or if you can split it .25 twice a week.
In my opinion this medication should be looked into greater before just using it because it is now the standard for every 19 nor cycle. You may not be affected at all by prolactin and if you speak with Xvbeast who is an exceptional BB he just ran into some issues coming off caber. Stay healthy brother.
X2 for sure. I'm old school and have run deca and tren a few times in the pre ai era and I have had zero problem. Bloods are the only way to know what you need and how much. Don't blindly slam ai's and prolactin meds if you don't need them
I wish the old school way was the only way. Many don't realize this is one of those ventures that you might never be able to reverse for being careless.
I was thinking this as well but I didn't know his predisposition with prolactin.
I know this is why blood test are so important. Because I do believe down the road there is going to be issues with excess cabergoline taking. Now everyone assumes they need it when running 19 nors but it is not true.
Speaking specifically, I will agree, but in generality, I will disagree. If everyone got bloods, I would agree entirely, but, I've seen too many guys, without bloods, suffer the prolactin sides of Nandrolone and Trenbolone. Everyone is indeed different, but not everyone is lucky, so to speak.
I agree with the prolactin sides as well. But now there are people coming out talking about sides when they go off the caber. I am more health oriented then many here I also can afford to get frequent labs. But I still think many assume that taking caber more and more is the answer with out a backlash. Even many now are using it for sex enhancement which is fine to each is his own. But I have read a lot more as of late about people having adverse reactions. Not to mention it is one more drug that does effect the heart valves.
I agree completely. Everything we use seems to have many negative side effects. Taking minimal amounts to get what we want is the way to go. That's not how people seem to do things though. I recently had to talk a guy "down" from adding multiple compounds for his sports career. It took him getting bp and bloods to fully comprehend my opinion. People tend to throw too much at their goals, we forget about actually working.
Exactly! I see this in real life as well meaning offline. Fighters who now want to use more and more compounds just because they heard or read that someone else is doing it. It is becoming an epidemic, and so often when you suggest blood tests, the answer is "I can't afford that."
lol, yep. Can't afford a test, but I'll add another couple hundred to the cycle.
Hey man, cant tell if these shots are coming my way or not? Some how went from really positive and helpful advice in here to this.
No, not at all. Sorry about that, kinda went off topic in your log. I was talking about people in general mostly, in my last few comments I was talking specifically about a guy I know. I bring up bloods and he's all, "Shit, that sounds too expensive....I'll just have you advise me....I'll go with Test E, TNE, EQ, EPO, Anadrol, Halo, and whatever you think for PCT....I guess I can get an AI too...HCG?" Me--> '0_0'
All good man no need to apologise ;) I understand what your saying and agree with the points you are making, I just wanted to be clear I wasn't being bundled in to that category.
By no means.
No they are just talking in general. Most people just go with the latest fad(caber being the fad) and instead of finding out if they really need it through blood work they just take it, then have an out come like xvbeast. the only true way to know you really need to take some thing or if you are doing it right in this game is with blood work.
AnonA big thanks to you, rusty and everyone else for helping my buddy Bazy out. I can remember my own protocol but Alzheimer's kicks in when helping someone else out.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkHey Pank ;) yeah it may have been a post by Xvbeast I recently read where he ran in some serious trouble with relatively small doses of caber on a tren cycle if I remember correctly (could be wrong). Something I will be extremely vigilant with and judge as I go with the correct protocol.
Good job keeping up on all that! It will help you if you run into issues
RustyhookerWinny is usually 4 Weeks. Get liver protect and run it til dat before pct. If oral then split it half am/pm. Sust is 3wks til pct so I'd run prop the week after last pin til 2 days before pct. 125eod is a decent dose. Heres a good read on npp.....and careful with aro from day 1. http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/npp-seen-a-lot...
PM,d you bro.
Some great shit there , definitely took on board what you said and will edit to suit. Nice one Rusty cheers ;)
Depending on his pin schedule, he could go a couple/three days shy of the 3 weeks mark at that dose, of course with the Prop, that won't really matter. With Prop's half life, I like to start PCT the following day, depending on the dose of course.
Have you thought about starting the Winstrol later and ending closer to PCT?
I may continue the Winny depending how I am feeling at the time and how the cycle has gone up until that point.
AnonI like it brother but I hope you will add rustyhooker to your friends list and get him to look at this. Another guy that is in the know is Gfit. They may have something up their sleeve to turbo charge this cycle!and get more bamg for your buck. There's a Ton of knowledgable people on here but they really enjoy helping people out.
+1 my friend
do you stay pretty lean with sust? I feel that test p would be better for your goal here. what is your pinning times with the N.P.P.?