You'll gain around 20-30 pounds on any first cycle, it doesn't mean you've found the holy grail of a cycle and anyone who uses oral steroids is an impatient child looking for instant gratification. My first cycle was the PH to tbol at minimal doses (when hdrol was legal) and I gained 30 pounds also. You don't even have to have a good diet to gain that kind of weight in a first cycle. You're in no position to say "what works" yet. Not to mention it's absolutely idiotic to use trenbolone in a first cycle. I used one mild prohormone at minimal doses for 8 weeks and got the same results you did with 3 compounds one of which being the strongest injectable steroid known to man.

I never expected this personal log cycle to be a subject of debate.

The whole point of the cycle log sections is to post up a cycle for critique by members...

I've worked with an endocrinologist, a lab, and two doctors to monitor everything that was happening the first 14 weeks when I did this. Every hormone was monitored, cholesterol, RBC, and all of it. How dare you call this a trainwreck when I came out of my first cycle with 26lbs (of 32lbs total gain which is muscle mass which never went away.

Congratulations.

EQ is an amazing substance but you must be patient. A short time-span is mentioned? 14 weeks is short? I don't want to be a gnarly meathead, are we clear???

Because EQ is a drug you need to be patient for and doesn't start kicking in several weeks into a cycle, yes IMO 14 weeks is a waste and would ideally be ran for another few weeks which involves a longer cycle.

Tren/Test Ratio is not an issue, re-evaluate the dosing. H Overlaps.

The table with dosages is all fucked on my end but I'm seeing a lower tren dosage than test. Again, I said maybe it may give you issues as I know very few people who can run test higher than tren without sides. If it works for you, great.

2 Ai's? Yes! Its leading up to a Treb A/H cycle and prolactin will run amuck when Estrogen when it is out of control from the previous 750week long esters. So I control male Estrogen effectively, then prolactin has a very hard time performing its functions. Besides, I take 45mg adderall daily for 6 years, which also suppresses prolactin dramatically due to the relationship of dopamine and prolactin .

Hence why we advise using something called caber/prami to directly control any prolactin issues. You didn't mention you've been on adderall, which was a key piece of the puzzle here.

Its not just the outside. My Cholesterol index is 1.72, and I'm 49 years old, Bodyfat at 6.8%. Im in stellar health and look 20 years less than I should.

Post up a photo then.

My decisions and choices for steroidal supplementation were simple, I choose not to add anything hepatoxic to the equation at the beginning or end, simply because I don't seek instant gratification like most who seek the "puffer fish" look at the beginning before the longer esters kick in.

Not sure what this has to do with my post?

To the "Impasatable" - 250-300 is just powders. not what I eat. Total consumption is around 400-500 grams a day with food.

You're still over reliant on powder. Half of your protein coming from powder is not the correct way to diet.

My cycle is not a trainwreck, and neither is what works for me. You opinion is the absolute trainwreck here.

I understand you're an older gentlemen, so your system works differently than someone as young as me. But with those stats and your LBM, this cycle is overkill for your stats.

This works for me.

That's fine and dandy. But don't post up a log on here and then complain about the opinions other members are going to give you about it.

Edit: I believe when I originally responded to this post your weight was at 180lbs... appreciate you updating the stats. Again, as Roid said below, posting up a photo of the progress would go a long way to gaining the credibility this log needs.

Post a picture and your blood work. I'm not buying what you're selling.

Sounds pretty awesome. The site is full of people that have these great claims of low bf% and solid muscle. Easiest way to get some respect around here is to post a picture and back up your stats....We all like to see pics of someone who has put in the work and had great results....

Agreed.... I was like, WTF is this.. Mind blowing when I read some of these proposed cycles ppl run. Thats alot of gear... Good luck tho...