posted Fri, 10/11/2019 - 14:15
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Mast,Tren, Prop
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
10 weeks | test prop/cyp | tren | mast | hcg | caber |
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week 1 | prop 500 mgs | 375mgs | 400 mgs | 250iu 2x | as needed |
week 2 | cyp 500mgs | 375mgs | 400mgs | 250iu 2x | \ |
week 3 | cyp 500mgs | 375mgs | 400mgs | 250iu 2x | \ |
week 4 | cyp 500mgs | 375mgs | 400mgs | 250iu 2x | \ |
week 5 | cyp 500mgs | 375mgs | 400mgs | 250iu 2x | \ |
week 6 | prop 400mgs | 300mgs | 300mgs | 250iu 2x | \ |
week 7 | prop 400mgs | 300mgs | 300mgs | \ | |
week 8 | prop 400mgs | 300mgs | 300mgs | \ | |
week 10 start pct | clomid | 50\50\25\25\12.5 | nolva | 40\20\20\20\10 |
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Should be running Test C for 10 weeks at least.
You have a arimidex to take twice a week?
AnonIt's definitely all over the place. But I don't see any way you're going to have big problems. Maybe some fluctuations in levels during the c to p transition right as the c peaks, but you won't die..simple is better imo. No big deal
This cycle is ugly
Why are you only running cyp for 4 weeks ? Is it something left over that ur just trying to use I’m confused
Bang'emNo I will have enough of both
Ah very nice enjoy man
Ive ran test tren mast last summer.. best is ed injections!!
I've only ever run that combo in short esters - have you tried both long & short?
Nope, it was prop and ace, im thinking abt long ester test next time, ed injections aswell the rest short
Me also, I know Bulkdaddy is a fan of the enanth versions.
I'm just wondering if its much more effective for strength and mass gains in the long run...
For some reason.. i feel stronger and get bigger on long esters, but the bad side is the unsteady bloodlevels, so fixing that i thought try eod or ed injections on long ester
AnonI always pin E3D for long esters, and ED for anything shorter than phenylprop.
Test p I notice a big difference in "feel" between e3d and ED. ED being more stable for me.
Tbh mate I pin ED and you still get massive fluctuations in hormone levels - not so much with the test prop but defo with the tren ace. The tren seems to stay potent for 12hrs and the test 24hrs then both start rapid decline. I was hoping with long estered compounds pinned EOD this would resolve this and obv you get the higher hormone levels once they have built. Swings & roundabouts I guess Lol
Bang'emI never had ran both short and long with tren and mast before, maybe i will just run prop. The last time I ran this cycle it was great. It was prop the whole way through
Dumb change your cyp to prop dummy. If you were experienced enough for this cycle you’d already know that. Now I question if you are.
Rustyhooker^^^^^^^^yup
Why don't you just 10wks Prop straight?
4wks cyp makes me confuse...
Bang'emNo reason specifically, I personally like cyp better is all
Not being a dick but no reason is a bad reason. Never achieve any type of stable blood levels like that. Prob make ai dosing a chore as well.
AnonWhen people do the prop tapers, at the end, do you notice a need for an ai adjustment for the remaining weeks?
I'm assuming the mast helps, but the hcg mixed with the first week (week6) of prop your test levels are still pretty high right?
Bang'emYeah they are, this time around I was thinking that Im going to taper off the test through the pct, ive been reading about it and it seems to have some good advantages to it.
AnonYou mean pinning a small amount of prop during the beginning of PCT? Or am I misinterpreting..this sounds vaguely familiar
Bang'emnot specifically like the link its a bit different i will lay it out for you
Pcushionhttps://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/test-prop-taper-...
Bang'emyes pinning prop the whole way through smaller and smaller doses
Do all your tapering prior to pct. Continuing to take test while trying to pct defeats purpose.
AnonI've actually read a few threads about people doing this, it's not really a typical prop taper. It's slightly more complicated and appears to not hinder recovery at all, people seem to think it's actually faster. I would guess it has something to do with the PCT drugs signalling the restart, and by the time the exogenous test is cleared out the negative feedback is stopped and normal production gets some sort of kickstart from the drugs being ran for weeks already.
100% not backed up by any study. Do not assume I can actually prove this. PCT is significantly more complex than the actual cycle. But, im only here because I fucked up my PCT for like 5 cycles? And now my natty is trash. But I've read all this sense then. Food for thought.
Bang'emIve actually read that tapering the test through pct at lower and lower doses, not only keeps you full of energy but you keep your gains as well. From what I read, the doses are extremely low, like tapering from any kind of drug. It makes sense reading it. Not sure if its a good idea as of yet, but I have not started my cycle yet, so still studying on it. This cycle is not in stone either, thats why I put it up to see what others have to say.
So what's the idea with this cycle then - What are you aiming for? ...
Bang'emabout 10 pounds, lean and cut, it shouldnt be to hard to acchive