-4 looking for advice for 2nd cycle.
I'm 48 6'3 200 apx 16 bf
as I write this I'm towards the end of my first cycle ever which has been 500 test s and anavar various so next is a pct.
but after that I've algoready ordered gear for a 2nd cycle
these are the vials try and figure out a plan with me if that is your thing
I'd prefer to use this gear but if I need something else I will order it
dragonpharm all of it
these are the vials I'm thinking of a 16 week course
my goals are definitely lower body fat more than bulk
injectables 10 ml vials
1 x eq 500
4 x test e 250
1 x mast 200 e
1 x mast 100 p
1 x tren 100 a
1 x cut mix150 50 tren 50 mast 5 test
1 x cut long 300 100tren e 100 mast e 100 test e
I have these oral on hand
50 x 50 mg anavar
25 x 20 winstrol
oral cause me nausea and some stomach bleeding
I have dostinex 1 mg x 20 for tren prolactin
I have clomid arimadex and hcg not sure what will be left over from the pct for this cycle
I have herbs called pct and liver support and also krill oil
I was thinking 10weeks with EQ then 6 weeks with some tren masteron
at least that's what I have with this gear
starting with anavar for 2 weeks and finishing with it too
I will write out my best idea if someone doesnt give me a better idea or something I need
like i actually just want 4 weeks of tren and then 2weeks of just test and mast anavar
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | eq | tren | mastt | anavar |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 500 | 50 | ||
| 2 | 500mg | 500 | 50 | ||
| 3 | 500mg | 500UI | |||
| 4 | 500mg | 500UI | |||
| 5 | 500mg | 500UI | |||
| 6 | 500mg | 500UI | |||
| 7 | 500mg | 500mg | |||
| 8 | 500mg | 500mg | |||
| 9 | 500mg | 500mg | |||
| 10 | 500mg | 500mg | 250 | 400 | |
| 11 | 500 | 250 | 400 | ||
| 12 | 500 | 250 | 400 | ||
| 13 | 500 | 250 | 400 | ||
| 14 | 500 | 250 | 400 | ||
| 15 | 500 | 250 | 400 | ||
| 16 | 500 | 400 | 50 | ||
| 17 | 500 | 400 | 50 |
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stamarI got this next cycle
from a seller here
it has 35 percent off and then 150 free with 250
so the full set was 315. I dont need to use it ever I guess
it's all ready for the time when my health and devotion to training are ready for it
that is the going price for what 4 vials of test and I vial of EQ right? maybe you have a better connection
I was actually just looking for masteron and the availability was a little low and expensive for what I wanted
by the time i looked at this i had 4 vials with masteron 4 vials test eq tren and dostinex
I have it. i need to be in better shape... before i have it? what kind of brain damage do steroids cause and which did you use?
dangerous...... to have these vials.... I have these vials and I'm not in shape yet.....oooooookkaaayyy
now that I ordered it I want to use the part I wanted to use now so I wanted a for fun cycle list with someone who's written out lots of cycle lists to help with the gear I have that's it
that's all lol get over it get real
stamarI got this next cycle
from a seller here
it has 35 percent off and then 150 free with 250
so the full set was 315. I dont need to use it ever I guess
it's all ready for the time when my health and devotion to training are ready for it
The whole idea is to only use added compounds when you can no longer make gains . Save it for when you need it. Only one new compound at a time. Then if you have bad sides you'll know what caused it.
stamarI hear you there totally one at a time.
so I did test
anavar
winstrol( really bad)
next i will use masteron for just 2 weeks it might have little effect but to show me a side effect
ya i would say after training for about 8 months test and anavar brought gains that would not occur naturally at speed
in the next cycle the new one is eq
( normally reported with few sides but sometimes no effects but sometimes lethargy)
even though eq and masteron are new to my system
aas based on test and dht are not so the side effects aren't going to be in left field.
10 weeks of eq I'll be an expert I'll do more or less.
some people love eq but I think they are big guys.
for 10 weeks after that it has tren low dose and masteron both new together which doesnt follow the one at a time thing but the two work together to reduce the side of tren and increase the binding of masteron
Your addicted to buying and taking gear. Nobody go to 100 before the first steps. You are nowhere even close physique wise to take anything other than yohimbe bark and boron. You making good decisions lately?????? This is absurd and dangerous
stamarweird I've never taken anything but test and anavar but I bought the next cycle because it was so cheap.
everything else is a weird argument in your head with yourself
stamarshould be in proposed cycle or how to write a cycle section my mistake
this is a cycle that has Test and EQ which are based on test
it has anavar and masteron based on dht
and it has 19 tren. now a lot of people may introduce this kind in a cycle with deca first to see how your system responds.
now some I used in my first cycle ( as of writing this still am)
and didnt really like like anavar has some positive but right now I am up late with indigestion and insomnia
huge strength gains though
each of the new ones I try I cant guarantee it's going to agree with me
by the time I start a cycle like this I'll be pretty clean from the one I'm doing now, which is getting to be a little low on the test dose imo
but down the road hitting 500 eq and 500 test in a week might be shocking again
stamarI was going to say i took that picture when i did test subcutaneous so it had knots on my stomach so its 1 month ago. so recent enough and my exercise list was sets of 8 so big weighs
now my set list is more sets of 30 just trying to make it through on lower calories on machines
stamarI didnt put it in but I feel like adding 20.mg winstrol a day for the last week depending on how my stomach feels
I have aromasin and destinex but I want to start each one to see side effects first like perhaps a week of tren to see if I get side effects and what they even would feel like
and then after a week to do 1 2 mg a week of destinex
this cycle doesnt use the vial of tren I got at all and it doesnt use cut mix that will be for the next cycle someday unless i feel like 250 tren doesnt do enough its there
stamarsorry everyone is so confused
I was asking for advice for setting up the cycle log based on
the vials of stuff I had
exclusively
lol for who ever had that kind of firepower
the advice given based on whatever is weird but it's my mistake
it's pretty simple and I'll do it now
the picture isnt that recent but not that long ago
it's just a placeholder for when I do the actual cycle in the future
a lot of the opinions here are bizzarre but I wont take the time to correct them
all the aas are easily researched looking up their doses
some people here are experts a lot aren't. it doesnt matter that's what I would exp3ct.
I'll finish the chart based on the stuff I have
I'm using like less test that i thought to finish
as far as
One question? Since you seem to think you know so much why do you look like shit? Is it your training , your diet or both? Those are the questions you need to ask. Dont beleive everything you read. If it was as easy as just taking drugs everyone would be jacked. You dont resemble a natural body builder.
stamaryou dont know anything until
you read it
you try it
I'm only here to figure out 2 things which are my next decision based on this cycle of 10 weeks test s 500 and anavar 250
its if I use masteron this cycle and dostinex in this pct. the other decisions aren't pressing they are many months off
one person had an important suggestion here I have to think about and research which is down time. but it's not really as pressing as figuring out what gear I'm using from this order on the 2nd cycle so I can use some now the gear I have now runs out in 3 weeks and that's the only decision I need to make in 3 weeks unless I also need to order something else
in the end I'll look great ill achieve all my goals I wont stop until I do I never have
I train about 3 to 5 hours a day but sometimes have periods of lethargy
If your training that long your wasting your time. You should be able to knock out two body parts in no more than 45 minutes. After your warmed up dont put the bar down until you can do another rep. Forced reps, drop sets, super sets will force growth in those muscles. Even Arnold didnt train 4 or 5 hours s day. I'm kinda hoping your trolling but if your not start with the basics. Give it all you've got that day. Get it done. Track your macros. Cottage cheese before bed, whey when you wake up. Basics will get it done.
stamarI'm not in a hurry so if i have the energy to work out low key for hours I can if I want to knock out 45 minutes I can
just success is the goal.
if I do zero hours for too long ... especially while on cycle that's the real waste
soon I'll be in pct and I'll have some days with no lifting at all. watching taking a blood test whatever.
I don't know what you look like but you are older than me
it is so rare I meet anyone my age with my level of youth and fitness honestly
but definitely in body building circles that are all over
if you have a picture of yourself I'd have a picture of when my fitness is likely to exceed yours or if it just isnt in my goal range
I have all the powder and supplements etc ready to roll I was on a mostly cardio low carb thing a year ago lost 30 lbs 30 days
Theres a whole bunch of us on here older than you that are actual bodybuilders.
stamarI put on some weight on gear and then I lost it I would say it is diet I did a lot of weight lifting and would binge eat but briefly
I dont know if I'm a body builder at this point my strength is pretty out of the ordinary for someone my age but it is recently juiced actually
I dont know what looks bad if that pic is 18 to 20 bf its 16 now has been for about 6 months and I cant guarantee anything but if I extend the cycle to 5 weeks I think I'll be at 14 bf at the end and then the next challenge is recovery. I have not been at 14 pct body fat since my 20s so I can say I'll be there after I get there.
but I won't say that will be easy just doable
if 18 bf looks like shit to you that's cool I mean that's good. its within the realm of normal somewhere at 14 is athletic. you definitely dont need anavar to lose bf at all what's it's for is to try and keep the muscles as I go into calorie deficit
stamarI'm not sure I mean that picture I weighed about 10 lbs more but worked out a lot. I lost about 60 lbs over the last year. pretty dramatic but a lot of people are in better shape I've been in better shape but a long time ago.
I was just trying to fill out the cycle list to see if anything is left over so u can add it to this cycle
and extend it 2 weeks
my main idea was to finish with 2 weeks of 400 mg masteron from the vial masteron 200 that leaves 1200 for 5he next cycle
also the gear gets here before i get the next pct and it has dostinex I can look into its use
I see you are really open to advice. Just do what you want and quit wasting everyones time here.
Everyone is saying the same thing. I hope you’re listening. People here actually give a shit. Slow your roll. Get your diet and cardio solid, which means at least six months solid. Then, maybe think about another, light test only cycle.
Life is long. Be safe and be wise.
You need a diet and some cardio. Your damn near obese and going to run a cut cycle? Steroids arent diet pills. Figure out wtf your doing. I guarantee estrogen problems here...that isn't 16% either.
stamarI could do a 2nd cycle of 750 test but I'd like to see how my body reacts to eq. if it is the stuff in the 10 weeks I'll order more and do 20 weeks i guess.
if I dont like it I'm ready to do 750 test for the rest of the cycle that day I have enough to cover 16 weeks. then I have to look up how long it stores
I bought all this stuff at a discount I'm not looking to stockpile anything but if I don't use it for the 2nd cycle it will be in the 3rd
and I might even buy the 3rd cycle once I have this one pretty well 0lanned
I'd like to see how not body reacts to masteron and just do injectable in the future. I read about primo might have been a better choice but it's expensive it might be in my 3rd cycle
stamarthe 2nd cycle is more that 2 months off it would be part of my goal to lose weight in that time
the first cycle is 500 mg test so the 2nd one is going on 750 test
it does start with 500 test 500 eq that's because I read that the potency of eq is around half test. then later in the cycle theres mix stuff that adds cyponate to EQ
if theres sonething missing I would order it
I have clomid arimadex and destinex and hcg actually already so most pct pharms and OTC stuff as well.
I have already a lot of orals I'm not buying more I listed what I have so I'm writing out a cycle based on what I've already ordered. i dont think it's that tough if i end up with winstrol left over still i wont use jt.
if I use winstrol again it will be really short. if I use anavar in the next cycle I'll stop if I get too much stomach upset
I'm using it right now its day to day
i liked using anavar in a way but the nausea sucks I'd rather use it for a few weeks tops . 2 months from now j feel like I'll have lost a lot of weight. so I'm sorry for who is confused I'm mostly just filling out the cycle log with what I have already bought exclusively
if theres something else to buy I should make a note of jt.
next cycle where I used anavar on this cycle I'd like to try masteron.
I definitely don't think you need anything else.
Why would you order all this without not knowing how you're gonna run it? I'm no pro but this makes no sense dude
And if orals make your stomach bleed don't use them.
If you're dead set on running a cycle stick with test. Maybe proviron if you must use something else. That along with a strict diet will get you more results than tons of gear
stamarI definitely can use just test
test eq is usually a milder choice with fewer side effects than just test
I could run test EQ and masteron
those 2 have few sides and are healthier.... than just test for 16 weeks
...
but whatever I do isnt really the question as much as setting up the next order to see if I have some gear left over to do bow.
a big part of the next cycle is to try tren at a low dose because it really binds with masteron for weight loss
it's there if I want to try it its stockpiled for step 3 if I dont
tons of time to worry about that some other day I just wanted to figure out if the gear I ordered I can use any of it now and not mess up the next cycle. I'd like to see what masteron does right now
You just need a diet at this point and not a cycle.
Troll? This cycle must be a fucking joke...
ding... ding... ding!!!!!!
That's what I was thinking
This is a train wreck. Reckless abandonment with obvious lack of knowledge and any respect for your health. If you truly care for yourself stop now.
Jesus this is a mess. Just stop before you hurt yourself any more.