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First ever cycle. Looking for a G2G

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Looking for a g2g on this one. I had the Epistane around and have done two cycles of it before, hence the no ramp up. Hoping for lean gains and a decrease in fat. Not much else than trying my first cycle with appropriate supplemental nutrition and a solid workout plan. Any advice?

28, male, 6'4'', 235lbs, No clue on bodyfat %. Strong strength and conditioning background (10 years of sports and other interests, heavy lifting for around 2 years.

WEEKTEST EAdexClomidNolva
Week 1500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 2500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 3500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 4500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 5500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 6500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 7500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 8500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 9500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 10500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 11500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 12500mg EW.25mg ED
Week 13.25mg ED
Week 14
Week 15100mg ED40mg ED
Week 16100mg ED40mg ED
Week 1750mg ED20mg ED
Week 1850mg ED20mg ED
fast48's picture

I surely enjoy how i spent hours back n forth...nothing changed. broscience at its best

elephex's picture

I was on vacation and did not realize I could update the actual spreadsheet here. My apologies. All should now be legit. Thanks!

elephex's picture

First, let me apologize for being away (vacation!). Secondly, WOW, fantastic read and write up. I might have mentioned before that I do have a medical background and this was very interesting. Thank you for the information.

fast48's picture

Great work! This bro won't lusten though. Should post this as forum

w1cked001's picture

you don't need two serms. pick one.

w1cked001's picture

the blind leading the deaf. please, educate me further, considering I work in epidemiology, and just might have taken one or two courses in bio/chem. I couldn't care less what the PCT sticky written by an anonymous bro says.

fast48's picture

Time for you to study some read world science on humans.

elephex's picture

Anyone else care to chime in on this? Most of my research has indicated that running both might be more beneficial.

elephex's picture

Saw the back and forth with the other bro. Thanks for dropping some science in here. Much appreciated!

Mechyboy's picture

Nolva clomid should be 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50, not adex in PCT,no orals in first cycle, test only

elephex's picture

Gotcha, changing that up on my spreadsheet offline as we speak.

elephex's picture

Most of what I have read tells me to begin that late due to the Test not being "fully" active in the body yet. Could you point me to a post or research on the subject?

Thanks bro!

jayke's picture

i dont think anyone said it.. 2weeks after last shot pct. I have Anastrozole and started running week 1 but maybe your AI diff

elephex's picture

I like the idea and will most likely follow your advice. Thanks for the input!

elephex's picture

I sure have, Milk thistle, NAC, and Tudca. Will continue the same on cycle.

OmNom's picture

Yeh if i remember correctly epistane is a PH... why not take a real oral steroid that's way more powerful with less unknown sides than a ph if you really want a oral kicker? And even if it's a PH there is no way 8 weeks of a oral is safe.. idc what PH it is it's no more toxic or less than other orals and 8 weeks is over kill.

manbearpig's picture

most PH's today are not even prohormones. they are active steroids. but yeah, if i was to use an oral (not saying you should), i would use something that has been used in medicine for many years so that i am aware of all the dangers the compound poses.

elephex's picture

First real cycle for me. I've taken the Epistane twice before (2 different cycles of JUST Epistane) and I know how my body reacts to it. It is really quite mild but I could tell a big difference in strength after about the 5th day. In effect, its a mild jumpstart until the Test kicks in.

OmNom's picture

Btw if I'm thinking of the correct company that is selling epistane from the PHF site which is bogus as shit and known for sending out fake PH's/underdosed which they talk about is the NEXT best steroid when its GARBAGE that usually attracts teens and turns out to be underdosed trash that just ends up fucking with your body and giving SHIT gains... Google their bullshit..