-2 FIRST CYCLE EXPERIENCE: Before + After pictures!
Training since I'm 15 years old. I decided to jump on the gear after 6 years of which 3 years I did research on anabolics. I read william's anabolic book completely along with Chris Aceto's championship bodybuilding
Before stats: 21 yo - 1m81 - 88kg - around 16% bf
After 12 weeks: 97 kg - 14% bf (my goal was not to cut, just pack on mass and get a little leaner)
As I speak now, 6 months after my first cycle I am at 93 kg. I'm planning to do my second cycle on my 22nd birthday. (almost)
My diet goal was mainly packing on lean muscle mass, which I did. I had no side effects through the complete cycle. My strength went up on ever exercise, had a bloaty water face but was because of the test and ofcourse the higher carb intake. Horny as hell all the time. untill im not 25 yo, I will only do one 12-week cycle per year.
training was like this:
Monday: AM: hammies PM: quads
Tuesday: AM: triceps, side laterals PM: Chest thickness
Wednesday: AM: Biceps, rear delts, PM: Back thickness
Thu: OFF (Stretching and mobility work)
Friday: Lacking muscle parts
Saturday: CHEST/BACK (main focus on width -> flyes, wider grip exercises, and for back i did alot of lat work., pull-ups, pulldowns,...
Sunday: OFF (Stretching and mobility work)
& REPEAT, Ofc. i did switch things up every now and then. but like this it was mainly.
Cardio: 2x per week 25 min stairs post-workout
Food: 4200 kcal approx. my dad (nutritionist) swtiched things up every now and then. sometimes it was 3900, other days 4400,.. on rest days I lowered huge amount of the carbs. went a few times on keto during rest days.
1 cheat meal every 14 days (12 dunkin donuts, lol) I also ate 1 muffin before every workout. Christ Aceto's muffin pump is way to go, ha.
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Clomid | Nolvadex | Arimidex |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 250mg | |||
| 2 | 250mg | |||
| 3 | 250mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 4 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 5 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 6 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 7 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 8 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 9 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 10 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 11 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 12 | 500mg | 0,25 EOD | ||
| 13 | 0,5mg 1x / wk | |||
| 14 | 0,5mg 1x/wk | |||
| 15 | 100 | 40mg ed | 0,5mg 1x/wk | |
| 16 | 50 | 40mg ed | 0,5 1x/wk | |
| 17 | 50 | 20mg ed | ||
| 18 | 50 | 20mg ed |
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great progress PICS, too young to cycle in my opinion.
this thread is four months old brother :). They already banned him anyways..no point posting
-2 for being a little kid on gear. You are too damn young and you didn't accomplish anything with that cycle that you couldnt have accomplished natty.
Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.
Fistly you shouldnt posted this cycle because no one in this forum will go against the rules. They keep telling the same shit in every post. I dont give advice to people under 25..so why you posted a cycle ? It seems that you want attention and people to admire you.
Second your physic looks poor for a cycle.... I am about your age and weight more than you without cycling. Before getting injury ( last year I was 110 kg natural) and the buddy who's training with me ( 20 years old) 120kg natural 16-17 bodyfat. The other quys are telling you the truth. Makaw is right and everyone is right..the truth is that your just another regular quy in the gym. I am not hating or anything.. but I saw people like you all the time. You've been training for 2 years and jump into steroids...and please do not tell me that you was training from your fifteens because this is a big bullshit and not correct. DO not count these years because at this age your knowlege and your training style is 0...basically you wasted your time
My opinion is that you rushed into this game very quickly without proper knowledge to retain any muscle mass from cycles, 90% with poor diet and without realising the consequences of all these. When you inject steroids, then you take your endocrinology system in your hands. I want to see if something goes wrong how you will find the money the pay endocrinologist and all these bullshit at 20 years old..probably at uni like me...except if your another rich teenager
NotNatural23Well first off you were smart by doing all the research but surprised you haven't been blasted for not being 25. Unless they changed the rules recently. Me personally to each his own but surprised people even gave you advice cause mods or other more experienced members on here who have respect would neg you. Wish you luck and be safe you only have one body and a couple minds.
thomas1742Those who like to put in effort and time in roasting me because i'm only 21 have a point. And I know they dont want "little kids" to fuck on this forum about gear etc...
But my goals are set high. I know what the consequences are of starting early. I look up to people like regan grimes, chris bumstead, Cody Drobot,..
I'm prepared to give my all for the few years I'm around on this planet.
Your nooo way near regan grimes. Dont ever put hom in the same sentence as you. You have to worry about you and your future. Not somebody elses
Are you making money
I think the hard work this young man has clearly put in is kind of overriding that unwritten rule. If he looked like shit and wasn't treating what he's doing with respect, this thread would look a lot different. Most of us won't admit it in the open but I will: there's a big difference with how young, hard working future IFBB hopefuls are treated and how skinnyfat kids who want to "tone up" for the summer are treated. A holistic approach in how we deal with young members is much better than simply judging them by age and age alone. That's just one part of it, but without context, it's pretty meaningless.
If anyone negs me for this comment, please let me know with your own comment that you did it and I'll +1 you as a thank you for the transparency. Hopefully we can mutually appreciate each other's honesty here.
Pounds23I agree with you hell I understand exactly what ur saying...and to all the more established members I know our job is to do our best to deter the young ones from running any gear cause we know the effects that he could possibly screw his Endo up and need try for the rest of his life.... If it's truly his dream to one day become a pro I would rather support the young man then put him down if he was a weekend warrior or a summer warrior I'd say ripe apart but at least his being honest and that's gotta count for something.... And I don't think he meant anything bad about mentioning Regan or Chris I just believe it's his dream to start young like they did we shouldn't knock people down for going after there dreams not we all can't tell for sure if he's telling the truth but all we can do is believe that he is being honest and is a good person it seems like nowadays in every sport people are starting younger and younger and younger and in a way it's unfortunate cause they miss out on all kinds of things this forum is to be open and honest and receive helpful information I'd love for this gentleman to wait to let his body mature more and maybe devolpe alil more naturally but at least his starting low and modest in dosages and compounds and I see a decent improvement maybe instead if shooting him down let's ask him about his nutrition and training and do our best to get him to his dreams guys... And idk maybe I'm wrong I just know me as a human I'd rather help push and inspire someone to go for the dreams and goals and make them as smart and intelligent about the pros and cons unfortunately I think we're seeing alot of younger pros hitting the stages and seeing alot of older pros hitting 35-40 max and retiring so u only have so much time to try and become someone in this so called sport there really isn't any right answer to this but there's gotta be a better way to fully understand some of these younger people now we do get a shit ton of bullshiters and liars and coners and it's sad for the young good guys I just know me as a human I'd rather this kid ask then not ask something as some sick as the gym give him some crazy bullshit answer and really destroy himself and his dreams and chances there's tons of smart guys in here I could name fifteen but I won't and maybe I'm wrong guys and I don't believe some of these kids do no research no study and just come in here and think they can ask whatever they want and we're gonna divolage all our info and stuff that took us tons of research and trial and errors and tons of reading those don't deserve our help but maybe a few do depend on certain things I hope I didn't come off wrong guys...and I'm not saying I agree to giving advise to these young men I just believe everyone circumstances and situations are differently and should be handled each different and individual different from the last....idk maybe I'm wrong guys
I wont neg you, but would say... nothing can over-ride and make us look positively and co-sign someone who is potentially giving him/herself brain damage. This youngfella hasn't finished brain development yet and is rocking in there and telling his brain to switch off production of one of the most important hormones in his body, possibly doing irreversible damage to his HPG axis and with other compounds may be affecting his frontal lobe which controls decisions around risk and behaviour. We could be co-signing a future no-testicle manboobed asshole that makes bad decisions everyday!!!!
Pounds23And see it's tough cause I agree with what ur saying giard what do u think if he is running a cycle and coming off and pcting correctly and not blasting and cruising and giving himself the proper break in between cycles now I'm only asking I'm not saying it's right with what he's doing but we have to understand even at older ages we're doing damage for whatever u do there's always a opposite reaction to an action none of these cycles at any age are good but we way the risk and reward I believe all of us well not alot of the younger guys but the older guys I believe do.... I just truly think that no matter what we say to these younger kids I would believe alot of us know there gunna do it anyway and aren't gunna listen to us there too stubborn and are gunna do it anyway and alot of will whind up learning the hard way for a long time with other things that's how I was in till I smartened up and said hey maybe there is something to the advise of the elders but now on social media we're seeing alot younger newer guys coming on the scene and I think it's having a serious effect on the youth today we can't ignore it and say it's not.... I just hope in a way we can start looking at every case as exactly that a separate case but they need to do there homework research and study I just hope we aren't pissing some young ones off and them saying fuckem I'll showem and they go crazy and really ban themselves up bad.....and you have a great valided point giard 100% but do u think there might be some in between common ground with certain young ones the things that's tricky is were online we don't truly know who's behind the keyboard and are there stats a lie u know so I guess in a way we might be better off deterring them away cause for all we know the could be 16 like that one kid on YouTube that's 16 and does multiple gear if u never seen that check that out talk about FD up defines stupid find moron in the dictionary and his pic is front and center
There is a young man of 18 in my gym that over the last two years has dropped 100lbs , dealt with having to wait for his skin to retighten up to get shredded and now is putting on some excellent size. All with work and diet. This kid is just lazy.
And impatient
Hell no this doesn't override the rule. -2 for encouraging a kid to use drugs.
If you +1 me for being transparent, I'll negative two you again.
All my love, no homo
Ed
As you wish. Thanks anyway. We don't learn if we don't fuck up.
Kids also don't procreate when they are older if they don't have nuts. Sorry bro. I've got zero tolerance for kids.
No its not.
Every kid who spends some time in the gym wants to be an IFBB pro. I see nothing here that impresses me in that regard. Yeah the kid is not some skinny-fat 150 pounder but I see nothing in the pic other than a kid who has put some time in the gym. Looks completely natural to me and has a lot more natty potential ahead of him. Looks completely normal to me and not someone who has a ran a cycle or is even at the stage yet where a cycle would be warranted.
Anymore talk about cycling from him and I wouldn't be surpised if he is banned soon.
It gets no clearer than that
NotNatural23By no means am I ripping him he actually seems like he is smart and knows what the hell he is doing and each case or person is different. I wish I looked like that when I was his age I would have been getting laid every day not every 3 days. lol. I was just saying their are people on here no matter what if you aren't 25 then u get negged. Like I said if that's what u want to do then do it but be smart know ypur shit and don't fuck up yourself. To be honest I know I would have tried aas if I knew where to get them at that age. Hope I don't get bombed for being honest. I am one who researches and knows what is going in me. Saying that don't take me as being negative to you bro for being that age. I was just making a general comment cause your post isn't like all the other young ones on here. I wish you the best and keep putting in the hard work
thomas1742Too bad I can't +1 you, ha. Thanks for the support anyway, Social Media would have been a better place if everyone was this honest.
Are you still here? You can't plus 1 him.
-2 for breaking the rules by being here.
Looks good, solid process. Try to put some more mass on those delts
Great work if he was natty, terrible for a pip squeak on aas. I was bigger then him at his age all natural and hardly worked out. Dont encourage children to use aas especially this moron.
thomas1742They we're okay when I was on. now (6months later) I really struggle to keep em full, round and 3d. But I know that they're my lacking body part. I will switch things up in my 2nd cycle and hit em Twice a week
Appreciate the feedback
They were like this bc in this area you have the most androgen receptors so you'll see an impact there faster. Nevertheless this is not an excuse to not train them properly just bc they look big when on Test. Try that but I think once a week is enough just go really high volume and lots of different movements
My opinion is that the 3 first weeks you run were nonsense. Why did you took less test in the beginning?
0.25 arimidex e0d is not very much I'd run 0.25 ed
thomas1742First cycle man. start off slow. taper it up. You don't know how your body responds to something unless u try it. I was just starting at the lowest possible dose and on the other hand, It only kicks in after approx 2 weeks. No need to start off at 500 imo
I would only run .25 ED if I'd notice i need it. Too much arimi is overkill and will block too much estrogen. I felt perfect on .25 EOD
How do you know what "perfect" feels like when on a cycle if this was your first.
Sorry but you're not adding up... I'm thinking you've been doing this longer then you've stated. Just my .02
thomas1742If you had a lil knowledge, and just look at my traps in that before vs after back picture you would know enough. seems like you're "thinking" isn't that logic
-2 for disrespecting goose.