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+ 1 First cycle Dbol Test e

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

30 yrs old,
6' (182cm)
195lb 15%BF, 10 yrs of weight lifting
I am on my 2nd week of the 12 week cycle. I would like to bulk with this cycle.
200~250 P/ 300~400 C/ 50~100 F grams approx per day

I would like to be 220lb 15~%BF with this cycle. I work out 5~6 days per week.

WeekTestosterone EnanthateDbolHCGArimidexNolvadexClomidMilk Thistle
1500mg (250 2x)30mg ED0.25mg EOD250mg ED
2500mg (250 2x)30mg ED0.25mg EOD250mg ED
3500mg (250 2x)30mg ED0.25mg EOD250mg ED
4500mg (250 2x)30mg ED500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD250mg ED
5500mg (250 2x)500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD
6500mg (250 2x)500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD
7500mg (250 2x)500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD
8500mg (250 2x)500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD
9500mg (250 2x)500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD
10500mg (250 2x)500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD
11500mg (250 2x)500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD
12500mg (250 2x)500IU(250 2x)0.25mg EOD
13
14
1540mg ED100mg ED
1640mg ED100mg ED
1720mg ED50mg ED
1820mg ED50mg ED
vhman's picture

I think this is too much for a first cycle. I would stick with the test-e only. Keep the AI as needed (checked with bloods).
Dbol for a first run, on top of test will raise your E2 sky high, then will drop after you're off. You want to keep things slow and steady, especially for your first run.
HCG is unnecessary for this run as well. I twill raise your E2 as well and you probably won't need it for this run.
Keeping things simple, especially for your first run is important. You need to see how your body reacts to a single compound at a time. You can add compounds as you gain more experience and know how your body reacts to the whole cycle thing.
Mak has you for diet.
Good luck.

jaredktkim's picture

Thank you for your advice.
Many people been telling HCG always benefical in terms of getting my test back to normal. I am not sure why you would not recommend for this particular cycle. Is it because only test 500mg/w is low enough?

vhman's picture

I'm not saying you can't, just that it's always a good idea to stick to one compound at a time. Hcg will raise your estrogen, along with the test. I would just see how your body reacts to test this run and then add hcg next run is all. This is a fairly mild cycle and recovery through a normal pct should be fine and successful.

Makwa's picture

You are not going to hit your goal with those macros. That is basically a maintenance diet, you won't be adding additional quality mass eating like that. In fact that is about what I eat when I am cutting and I am about the same weight. I would put down at least another 100g of protein and bump the carbs up another 100-200 grams. You need at least another 1000 cals on top of what you have listed there if you want to build some quality lean muscle.

jaredktkim's picture

Thanks for your great advice

bigjrock's picture

cycle looks good. Arimidex is at a good starting dose but if you find out your getting estro sides you might want to bump it up.

jaredktkim's picture

Thank you!
I have a question regarding Arimidex. Do I need to do it til right before the PCT or last shot of test as I scheduled?

Is Aromasin a better version of Arimidex ? Like I have been researching a lot but many people answer differently.

The Impastable's picture

Two entirely different compounds that control estro.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/aromasin-exe...

Give that a read. Start using either if you experience sides, and then get bloodwork done to dial it in. Remember, it's beneficial to have your estrogen a little on the higher side when on cycle (especially if bulking).

jaredktkim's picture

so bulking cycle prefers arimidex? since aromasine blocks more?

The Impastable's picture

Not exactly. It's a user preference in the end as some people react well to one over the other. Aromasin seems to be the more popular due to less side effects plus being able to run it into PCT (I have no experience doing this) if needed, where as arimidex cannot be run into the PCT.

jaredktkim's picture

Thank you. I will try aromasin if I do another cycle.