posted Thu, 07/02/2015 - 13:19
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First cycle - 500 mg Test-E weekly
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Nothing major - 250 mg test-e twice weekly (M/Th)
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Clomid | Nolvadex |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | ||
| 2 | 500mg | ||
| 3 | 500mg | ||
| 4 | 500mg | ||
| 5 | 500mg | ||
| 6 | 500mg | ||
| 7 | 500mg | ||
| 8 | 500mg | ||
| 9 | 500mg | ||
| 10 | 500mg | ||
| 11 | 500mg | ||
| 12 | 500mg | ||
| 100mg/day | 40mg/day | ||
| 100mg/day | 40mg/day | ||
| 50mg/day | 20mg/day | ||
| 50mg/day | 20mg/day |
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What is your bodyfat% currently, it's not listed in your stats. What are you planning to use for estrogen control. What will your diet look like?
The more detail you provide the better advice you will get.
Hovering pretty close to 15%, I'd expect. Still cutting. I'm going to hold off starting the cycle until I reach around 12% I think.
As for diet, I'm running 1900 calories with 50/30/20 macro split and shedding weight fairly quickly. I still have some time to iron out my diet before I start the cycle, but I'll change the macros to 40/40/20 and likely use the same foods but double my caloric intake. Shit, I've never cycled before so I don't really know exactly what my body will need to put on mass; however, I've been reading the big diet thread in the forums here and taking some notes. ;)
Right now my diet consists of nothing but clean protein (chicken, tuna, some red meat occasionally), mostly brown rice for carbs, and lots of broccoli. I'm not adverse at all to eating the same thing every day.
As far as estrogen control is concerned, I've read lots of dissenting opinions - one group of people says they'll never run a cycle (even on smaller doses of test without dbol) without an AI and another group says that it's not necessary at this level of test-only. I'm honestly not sure who to believe and I suppose, to some extent anyway, it's body-specific. Having said all that, what would you suggest?
I'm sure some of what I said won't be 100% ideal, but that's part of being a newbie I suppose.
Thanks for taking the time to read and reply.
You're doing the right thing to lower body fat before you start the cycle. That will set your system up for building mass when you start bulking again. Your calorie requirement will depend on your tdee but as a guide I'd say you want to be at a minimum of 4000 per day. The macros you specified above are spot on.
As for the AI question, you're right it's specific to the individual. Personally I need 0.5mg of adex eod from the start of week 4 onwards with test at 500mg per week. You're younger than me and will have lower BF so I would think 0.5 e3d should be plenty. Definitely have it on hand before you start. Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.
Age-25 kinda walking the rope already.
Pct???? What are your plans for post cycle therapy?
How much research have you actually done? Just wondering why you're pinning test E twice a week? Also no kickstart at the beginning?
What are your overall goals of using AAS?
Bro a first cycle does NOT need a kicker at all.
Twice weekly pinning is standard practice with test e and why would you ask a first timer about a kicker? First cycles are always test only so the user can get to know how one compound at a time affects them.
PCT advice varies fairly widely but I'll be running a very basic regiment:
Clomid - 50/50/25/25 daily - week 1/2/3/4
Nolvadex - 20/20/10/10 daily - week 1/2/3/4
No, no kickstart. This is my first cycle so I am wary of running too much. I want to keep it basic at this point - just test. I have definitely done research, but I am open to any criticism. Twice a week (250 mg M/Th) seems fairly standard. Is this incorrect?
Overall goals? Mass, my friend!
Open to all advice.
I'm new to this, after all.
Thanks for your time.
P2i2tPCT is meant to kickstart your natty processes back into gear, and to be honest these doses you have listed are not going to do almost anything. There is a reason that research shows 1 basic outlining of pct...that's because its what has been proven time and time again to work! I'm sure if you studied pct even a little bit you'll realize the basic protocol is double your dose, (100/100/50/50 and 40/40/20/20), so why would you research and see a protocol that obviously has been proven to be efficient and look at it and say "I think it would be a good idea to just cut these doses in half"? Just wondering the logic behind that? Anyways not trying to be a prick, just trying to get you to see that what you planned makes no logical sense. Hoping you listen and run the basic protocol. Not only that but I see no mention of when you plan on starting pct after your last pin. Basic protocol for that after running the Enanthate ester is 14-18 days. I usually like to wait 18 days and actually more sometimes when I'm personally running high doses. But running your 500 you can choose when to start. Just make sure its after two full weeks after last pin.
Yeah, I understand. It was simply a mistake on my part halving the dosages. I ordered enough for the standard protocol, so I am prepared in that regard. And no worries, you're fine - if I didn't want this to be seen and commented on, I wouldn't have posted.
The reason I didn't add PCT to the original outline is that I was in a rush. I do plan on running it and have everything I need to do so.
As for time-frame for starting PCT, I'll update the log to reflect what my plan is. Also, I'll outline it here and you can tell me what you think if you don't mind:
2 weeks after last pin - start PCT and run for four weeks as you guys have instructed (with the correct dosages).
That's basically it, nothing too complicated. Have you noticed any benefit to waiting 18 days to start PCT? I'm assuming it's related to the half-life of the ester and making sure enough of it is out of your system so PCT has full effect?
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I really appreciate it.
Double your pct doses in week 1&2. They are wrong. Standard pct is
nolv 40/40/20/20
Clo 100/100/50/50
true.
Addressed in earlier comment. /edit
Agree