posted Sat, 08/25/2012 - 03:27
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First Cycle - 1 year in the planning
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
29yo. 177cm. 74kg. bf 14%. pecs-none.
Been training on and off since 18 but never really been able to get to a stage whre im proud of my body. Been planning and doing research for the last 12 months, reading posts asking questions, checking out sources, and it's finally time to get this party started. Looking for some drastic changes and already been sticking to super drastic diet too. Dont like doing things in halfs.
Aim: u know the fold line where ur lower pecs end and ab muscle starts? - I want that line.
Concerns: Not overly worried about gyno. but have done research and will stick to the protocol. More worried about my boys downstairs shrinking/qutting on me. main concern is that I'll get sent a seizure letter one day in the future.
| Week | TestE | Arimidex | HCG | Clomid | Nolva |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | ||||
| 2 | 500mg | ||||
| 3 | 500mg | ||||
| 4 | 500mg | ||||
| 5 | 500mg | .25mg/e3d | 500iu | ||
| 6 | 500mg | .25mg/e3d | 500iu | ||
| 7 | 500mg | .25mg/e3d | 500iu | ||
| 8 | 500mg | .25mg/e3d | 500iu | ||
| 9 | 500mg | .25mg/e3d | 500iu | ||
| 10 | 500mg | .25mg/e3d | 500iu | ||
| 11 | 500mg | .25mg/e3d | 500iu | ||
| 12 | 500mg | .25mg/e3d | 500iu | ||
| 13 | |||||
| 14 | |||||
| 15 | 100mg | 40mg | |||
| 16 | 100mg | 40mg | |||
| 50mg | 50mg | ||||
| 50mg | 50mg |
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cdaddy7I'm telling you with a test only cycle at that dosage you can leave the HCG and be fine. Adding HCG can sometimes add more estro issues. I could understand if you were stacking or using a major shut down compound, but your not. HCG in this cycle is overkill IMHO
Not sure about dropping the HCG. Everything I know says its pretty much required. Doesnt ur boys stop working doesnt matter if its ur first or fifteenth cycle?
you are correct and there is some atrophy but not disturbingly so. I have read that doing the hcg the last two weeks before pct can help with this but I would check with someone who has more practical experiance.
Anonif do that sat on your AI cause HCG converts to estro.
looks like a solid first cycle much like my own I'm not useig the hcg though don't really see the need. best of luck hope you reach your goals
cdaddy7I would drop the HCG because if it's your first cycle with test only you won't need it
Might run the adex til pct. Estro will still be there converting. Looks like a good run!
AnonLooks beautiful! Research shows! Listen to Zewi I'm advanced with this stuff but Zewi found a way to make my cycle better and he is still helping me make it more kick ass! I'm a senior member on other bodybuilding forums but the replies I get on this site are faster and far more helpful! Keep everyone posted and best of luck!
Thanks for the tweaks guys. Shortened it by 2 weeks. Pushed PCT 2 weeks back.Have ketp adex starting from wk5. Low estro doesnt sound like fun.
It looks a bit generic now tho.
zewiPCT should be 15 days after last shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nova 40/40/20/20
And only run it for 12 weeks. No reason to run 14. Adjust the rest by two weeks and you have a great cycle.
Reminder if nipples get sore change that Arimedex to .25mg EOD or ED if still sore go to .5mg EOD or ED
This is why I love this site. Thanks bro! adjusted.
Uncle zewis gold. Bottle it up!
i would use arimidex day 1. And start of eod at your dose. Shorten your cycle by 2 weeks. your nuts will be fine but if thats your concern 250iu 2times a week of hcg. be concern about gyno...be very concerned. hcg can cause gyno also. Your post, stick with arimidex since thats what you chose. Add clomid to your post approx. 2 weeks after your last pin @ 100mg w1, w2 then 50mg w3, w4. not nolvadex. my experience not my opinion. im 5'6 190 12% bf
Never start afex from day one. Low estro is worse than slightly high. Sore joints, dry skin, low libido, squishy erection, body pain. An clomid nolva combo!
Yes keep ai running while using hcg..
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