posted Sun, 07/15/2012 - 19:46
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First Cycle
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
Expect: Blow the f&*K up
Concerns: Sides
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Hcg | Nolvadex | Clomid | Anastrazole |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | .5mg E0D | |||
| 2 | 500mg | .5mg E0D | |||
| 3 | 500mg | .5mg E0D | |||
| 4 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 5 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 6 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 7 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 8 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 9 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 10 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 11 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 12 | 500mg | 500UI | .5mg E0D | ||
| 13 | .5mg E0D | ||||
| 14 | .5mg E0D | ||||
| 15 | 40mg | 100mg | |||
| 16 | 40mg | 100mg | |||
| 17 | 20mg | 50mg | |||
| 18 | 20mg | 50mg |
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f&ck lol..i couldnt stop myself tonight so i just pinned that shit. its been hard knowing all my shit was just sitting in my safe ready for me. Zero PIP using a 19 gauge in thigh.
19!!!!! Holy shit! Lots of damage there. Go buy the right pins!
I knew but my dad is on test c injections for low t so he had some extra for me cause I ordered like 29g subcutaneous needles by mistake. I gonna look it up anyways but is hcg subcutaneous fast?
Hcg can go sub q. Glad ya got new ones coming. Get all vampire with the big needle. Lol!
I will post before and after Pictures this coming fall..and revising the test E mg to 500 weekly(i have test 400mg/ml)But i appeciate all of your guys advice! Add anything else you could add throw my way.
Damn you cant give any advice here without getting a thumbs down, so better just shut up..
All the best with your cycle then. Do post a pre and post picture when you are done. Would like to see your gains bro.
Your advice was extremely wrong. He would have lost every bit of gain and the side effects woulda been severe.
For a very first cycle i would just stay with something very simple. Dbol 20 - 30 mg a day for 8 weeks, and then end with HCG. Perhaps clomid
You are poking needles in yourself already. Dbol tabs are great for a starters kit in that age.
You will grow nice and steady, and strength gain goes way up..
After that. You can take it a step further.
I've repeatedly suggested to you that you stop advising these wrong cycles. Dbol is garbage for first second or third cycles. This is a brand new person and he should be getting the right advice. STOP THIS IMMEDIATELY
Perhaps, I'm not an experienced user. But Ive read alot on this forum and the major of people say and oral only cycle is a huge f#cking waste of time. That i wont retain the gains and without test you shutdown. I'm not starting cycle now just because I'm starting college this fall and am nervous about how I'm going to react on cycle and pct.
How about if i did 400mg /a week test?
would that be better because ill be running HCG(natty test) and im still "young"
You're listening to advice from a quack. Oral only is complete BS! I've repeatedly warned him against this advice yet he keeps pyshing the falsehoods. You will not kerp yoyr gains at all pkus have Nice new boobies. 500Mg/wk is THE FIRST CYCLE for reasons i outlined below.
Ok, so without you getting mad and give more thumbs down i would just like to ask politely (and i mean politely, no yelling please):
So what you are telling me, and this guy is that you keep all you gains after running testosterone, and that testosterone doesn't give gynecomastia?
dbol only cycle idea is flinstone old/bad advice for anyone. This is his first cycle which needs to be just ONE type of test. Test e or cyp. He needs to know EXACTLY how he reacts to just one. Next cycle is slow expansion. Ive used dbol....it works for 4-5th cycle when someone has good estro control or knows how estro effects them. If test aromatizes easily....he needs to stay awsy from a high estro converter or know which ai fights it best. Personally i almost never send anyone the dbol route. This site and all the gurus support this First Time Cycle method.
Actually orals as dbol have the same sides as test (except for the liver toxicity, but that straightens out by itself fast when you quit)
Dbol and test will both shutdown your testes, but that's where the HCG comes in.
Using Test will also have the same gain loss as other roids that shuts down your testes, but with orals you can quit any day if you feel something wrong.
If you are nervous about how you react to test injection, then go with test prop. Test E is a slow releasing depot, over around 3 weeks. Test prop is out in a couple of days.
600 mg/week would make you explode in size, since it's your first cycle. They always work out best in the first cycle. Your receptor count is high and are just waiting to get filled :o)
Orals are out in a few days also. That's why I always think of those as a good starter if you never tried roids before.
These days most people i know actually starts out with anavar or winny's for their first roid try. Mostly because roids are getting such an exaggerated wrong bad reputation here in the country.
23 y.o
200
5"11
not sure the BF but Lean
is there a reason that on your first cycle your going with 600mg of test? Also still pretty young, but i am sure you have heard that a thousand times. At your age, and this being your first cycle, i dont see the point in running the test that high.. Shit i am not even running my test that high right now..... Also how long have you been training?
4 years
ha and what about the rest of what i asked?
Well 500mg-600mg seems to be the starting point for most. are you only running test at 400mg or lower. I know your running something else with that test lol.
500 is the general starting point so that as you move to further cycles you can combine other steroids and still be below 1000mgs a week or less and still put on 12 lbs per cycle. Theres no need to firce your receptors to shutdown.
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YES!!! Please with the stats...it makes a world of difference, and makes it easier on us to offer advice...AND I can tell you right now that with just Test E, you probably don't really need HCG...unless it's a psychological thing about your balls being the size you remember.
honest i just want to be safe than sorry. It couldn't hurt right lol
Stats!