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  • EditDeca,NPP/Test Deca Test NPP & Tbol

  • Smithy5840   •   Mon, Oct 31st, '16 08:15   •   18 replies, 435 views

Cycle layout

WeekTest Deconate (E3D)ecoTest PP (E3D)Npp (E3D) Nandro Deca (E3D)ED TbolED provironletroCaberAromaNolvaClomid
12701307013050
22701307013050
32701307013050
42701307013070mg50
527013070130mg70mg50mg.25 E3d.5 x2/wk
627013070130mg70mg50mg.25 E3D.5 E3D
727013070130mg70mg50mg.25 E3D.5 E3D
827013070130mg70mg50mg.25 E3D.5 E3D
927013070130mg70mg50mg.25 E3D.5 E3D
1027013070130mg70mg50mgPRn.5 E3D12.5 E3D
1127013070130mg70mg50mgPRn.5 E3D12.5 E3D
1227013070130mg70mg50mgPRn.5 1/wk12.5 E3D
1327013070130mg70mg50mgPRn.5 1/wk12.5 E3D
1427013070130mg50mgPRn.5 1/wk12.5 E3D
1527013070mg130mg50mgPRnPRn12.5 E3D
1627013070mg130mg50mgPRnPRn12.5 E3D
1727013070mg130mg50mgPRnPRn.12.5 E3D
27013070mg130mg50mgPRnPRn12.5 E3D
60mg100mg
60mg100mg
60mg100mg
30mg50mg
30mg50mg

Description, concerns and expectations

Current Weight: 190
Height: 5'9

The products that I have acquired for this cycle come in a pre-mixed format, with the Nandro and Test being able to applied at the same time. I am also using T-bol, as I have used it before with great results. The oils I listed below are in listed as per shot, which I will be doing EOD.

The oils come in a premixed format. Which means that every CC U pull has twp different esters of Test (PhenylProp and Deconate) and twp different esters of Nandro (NPP and Deca)

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Comments

  • Smithy5840's picture
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  • Smithy5840
  • 2 months ago

I figured I would update this, now that its been a few months. This cycle helped me get strong as hell, and (I think) look damn good in the mirror. Although I don't compete, I am constantly getting asked if I do, and told that I should. And getting many compliments. As far as the sides go, the AI combo that I was taking and PCT worked perfectly, I was even able to keep acne under control. The small amount of gyno I had is gone and is definitely not visible. I know I got a lot of feedback suggesting that this was an "all around" poor cycle, developed by an uneducated gear user... But it as an amazing cycle for me. I am definitely not claiming to know everything about cycling and will freely admit that I could use MUCH more knowledge (knowledge is power) on the process. However, I do have people asking me for advice regularly, obviously I only give gear advice to those who I deeply trust. I'm not saying this cycle is for everyone, but it worked for me and my sex drive was through the roof. My sex life definitely is not lacking anyways, but this just made it that much better. I would definitely do a very similar cycle again, with the exception that next time I would switch back to an EQ stack. I will be rotating EQ stacks and Deca stack cycles from now on. Like I said earlier though, this is just what worked for me. I also wanted to thank you guys for giving me feedback in the first place, good or bad. I consider all of it.

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  • Smithy5840
  • 5 months ago

posted this with out editing it. This is the basic format, but there are something's that are listed that I am not taking as it appears. You guys are 100% right about the above being far too much gear, and obviously looking at the chart as it appears above reflects something more or less amounts to reckless, ignorant use. When I have more time to fill in the chart correctly, I will. I wish there was a way to enter values in a more detailed way, because for instance I am certainly not taking 1400mg of test every week or in excess of 900mg of Nandro. I appreciate the feedback, and am always willing to take criticism, but I should have posted this with a disclaimer that I wasn't finished. I just didn't want to lose all the info that I had already entered.

  • MedDx's picture
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You have a good base. Clean up what you posted and let us know when it's complete. Welcome to Eroids...glad you're hear...I look forward to seeing more responses from you on here... :)

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  • Smithy5840
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  • @MedDx

Thanks for the feedback. I'm still learning and I love taking in any information that I can and using it. Whether someone leaves a harsh criticism or a helpful one, I still try to take away what I can from the comments.

Anyway, I edited the cycle, which is now a much more accurate picture of what meds i am going to use to achieve my goals. My goals are to pretty simple.... It's winter, so I am really just looking to put on some quality size and strength. My diet needs work, and I'm sure I will get quite a bit flak for not making my diet a top priority. I will say that I am conscious of what I eat though and try to keep it clean and eat high protein foods, foods with good fats, etc. I just don't have it planed out or journal it.

  • vhman's picture
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Posting a cycle that is not accurate (so you say) is a complete waste of everyone's time, including your own. you have time to post this cycle and the subsequent "disclaimer", but not an accurate cycle? Not buying it, but I do hope you do at some point post up your "real" cycle and that is much more sensible and safe than this version and that your willing to listen to suggestions.

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  • Smithy5840
  • 5 months ago
  • @vhman

Fair enough. Like I said, I just don't know how to begin making a cycle log and save it at as an incomplete status. That said, I definitely wont be doing that again.

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We want to see what you got and there are lots here that are willing to help, just make sure it's accurate. Not trying to be harsh, just making a point.
Be sure to clearly state your goal for your proposed cycle and what your previous cycles were and their results. The more info given, the better the help will be. Best of luck.

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  • VIKING EVOLUTION
  • 5 months ago

wow............. looks like you bought the whole sweet shop

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  • Pmob
  • 5 months ago

What are your goals? Really don't know what's going on here? Looks to me you need to. Bump things down a bit?

  • mustafa5903's picture
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  • mustafa5903
  • 5 months ago

You really don't need that much deca. Waste of gear.

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  • MedDx
  • 5 months ago

Stats
Age: 31
Height: 5'9
Weight: 190
BF: 7%

Cycle history is >5? I noticed you said 5, or 6 in one of your responses where you posted a pic.

Please post daily cal/mac plan and goals.

How's your gynecomastia?

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  • Smithy5840
  • 5 months ago
  • @MedDx

Gyno was developing, but I killed it with caber and Letro.... which I have now backed off of. To keep things in check I now take 12.5 of aroma every 3rd or 4th day... which is working. If it flares back up, of course I would adjust the kind and amount of AI I'm taking.

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  • 5 months ago

Train wreck. I'd recommend you start over from the beginning with far lower doses and only 1 ester of test, Deca, and tbol for the anabolics. Aromasin and caber for anti estro and anti prolactin, and I'd just keep the letrozole on hand for any gyno issues.

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in addition to what I just commented above.... If I was looking at what you see in the table and didn't know that it needed to be edited to be corrected, I would agree. However, I will tell you that the ratio of Tests and Nandro is in a predefined mix. In other words, every CC I pull from the vial already has a specific mg of two different esters of test, and the same for the Nandro.

  • Hardwork734's picture
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  • Hardwork734
  • 5 months ago

Dam bro. That's a lot of gear to run. Why so many MG's? Are you trying to get like rich piano?

Wtf is up with all of these off the wall ass cycles? Where does somebody even get the information to run a cycle like this.
I have clients well over 220lb that wouldn't run that much gear unless they were going on stage. How old are you dude.

Could you explain maybe where your mind was at when you went with this cycle. Can you afford the food bill or blood to monitor while on cycle.

Someone call the DR. We may need help.

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  • Gymjunkie01
  • 5 months ago

this will be next weeks classroom material

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  • Makwa
  • 5 months ago

1.4g/wk of test and 700mg/wk of nandrolone and only 190lbs. What the hell are you thinking?

  • Hardwork734's picture
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  • @Makwa

He is Killin it bro. I have never seen the need for so many AI's or on cycle support in one cycle. Why so many ? His E2 levels will be destroyed if he runs all of that won't he or? do guys really use letro and aromasin together?

The sides are going to really get to him, I dought he will even. Like what he sees in the mirror.

I am not one to tell anyone what to do, but I think this cycle is a bad idea.