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  • stolentoys   •   Fri, Oct 6th, '17 22:54   •   16 replies, 535 views

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WeekTest PropTren aceT3Clen
1500mg500mg75mg120mg
2500mg500mg75mg160mg
3500mg500mg75mg
4500mg500mg75mg
5500mg500mg75mg160mg
6500mg500mg75mg160mg
7500mg500mg75mg
8500mg500mg75mg
9500mg500mg75mg160mg
10500mg500mg75mg160mg
11500mg500mg75mg
12500mg500mg75mg
13500mg500mg75mg160mg
14500mg500mg75mg160mg
500mg

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  • PPGfreak's picture
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  • PPGfreak
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I like to keep my test at a much lower dose when cutting. You're not trying to put on any muscle right now so the only difference between running 250 and 500 is additional estrogen.

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I read that you need a decent amount of test to fend off muscle wastage from the t3?

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That's correct in a way. Would you lose muscle if you were not running any testosterone? Yes absolutely. But the anabolic and androgenic rating on the trenbolone is 500:500 which is 5 x stronger than the testosterone. Your running 500mg of that so I really don't see the need for that much test. But of course it's a personal preference. I see guys cutting off of 200mg of Test and I see some guys cutting off of 1000mg of Test. For me personally I would keep it lower. I think the only addition you're going to get from running 500mg of test is additional estrogen.

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I've never had sides from tren but I've also always run test higher, Would running test lower increase the side effects of tren? sex drive,anger,night sweats ect

  • PPGfreak's picture
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Personally I get less sides. I'm cutting right now on
Test 300mg wk
Tren 700mg wk
Mast 700mg wk

Getting zero sides

  • stolentoys's picture
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Hmm maybe i should be going 250mg test and 600mg tren. Ill bring a hardener into my next cycle as that will be going into comp

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  • Merces33letifer
  • 12 months ago

prior cycles?

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previous cycle was Bulk test e 750mg/tren e 600mg for 16 weeks but I've previously done about 4 more then that. Only substance i haven't used in this is t3

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Stats goals concerns questions?

Ai caber pct?

Diet training supplementation?

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6'2 (188cm)
299.8lbs (136kg)
15-17% bf
Goal is compete in 5 months end of feb

My only concerns are is the test to tren ratio fine and how long should i be running t3 for.
also is that enough test to hold of muscle loss from t3 making me catabolic.
I've ran tren many times so not worried about the sides from it.

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Your not going to lose muscle on Tren.
But the t3 is good in the aspect that Tren will be lowering your thyroids natural production. But your going to need to pull bloods around week 3-4 to see where your at. I would start with a very low dose of t3 if I were you. Not mg but think mcg
But me being me, I know that t3 just gives me a wild sweat tooth & I wouldn’t take it
Who’s gear are you running?

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T3 will strip off mass unless bloods prove the need.

Given the stats.... post a picture. Gotta see this mass monster

  • SuperMax's picture
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Pretty big dude!!
& I am not a advocate of t3 or t4. But if the has his heart set on running it he needs to know he has his dose way to high.

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So 75mg is too high?

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Picture up

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So are you suggesting running the test at 250mg and keep the tren at 500mg? I normally do bloods every month so that's fine.
I read that naturally we're producing around 25mg of T3 anyway and using 25mg or lower is pointless as you are just shutting down your thyroid for artificial t3

I'll be running hercules labs