posted Mon, 09/17/2012 - 12:35
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-1 Clean mass gain cycle for 7 weeks
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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS
The goal is to gain quality muscle mass.
26 years old, 100kilos at 190cm
| Week | Testosterone Propionate | Stanozolol(Winstrol) | Chlordehydromethyltestosterone(Turinabol) | Tamoxifen | Clomid | Karsil |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 400mg(100mg eod) | 280mg(40mg daily) | 10mg | |||
| 2 | 300mg(100mg eod) | 280mg(40mg daily) | 10mg | |||
| 3 | 400mg(100mg eod) | 280mg(40mg daily) | 10mg | |||
| 4 | 300mg(100mg eod) | 160mg(40mg daily) | 160mg(40mg daily) | 10mg | 60mg | |
| 5 | 400mg(100mg eod) | 280mg(40mg daily) | 10mg | 120mg | ||
| 6 | 300mg(100mg eod) | 280mg(40mg daily) | 10mg | 120mg | ||
| 7 | 400mg(100mg eod) | 280mg(40mg daily) | 10mg | 120mg | ||
| 8 | 30mg | 100mg | 120mg | |||
| 9 | 30mg | 50mg | 120mg | |||
| 10 | 50mg | 120mg | ||||
| 11 | 50mg | 120mg |
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How much mass did you gain and what about using test cyp for prop?
Cycle experience? This needs work. Gotta match food/gym to goals.
This is my second cycle.
First one was 4 months ago with stanozolol only - 6 weeks 50mg ED
Gained 4kilos (from 96kilos to 100kilos at the end of the cycle) very clean and I was able to keep it all.
My gym experience is 7years
Ok. So first cycle was also a failure. Whats posted up top is completely wrong too.
1-12 test e 500/wk
aromasin when estro shows up. 12.5Ed
14-18 clomid nolva stack
Clomid 100...100..50..50
Nolva 40...40...20...20
I'd got to 8 weeks. Also whats your reason from going from 300 to 400 to 300 to 400? Stick to 400 and make it a little more stable
I read a research that the gains after 6 weeks are very low compared to the first 6 weeks gains. Also I think that the longer the cycle is the longer the recovery thus I don't want to hit my body too hard with this cycle.
About the Test doses - it's 100mg eod, when you divide it in weeks, you end up with 400mg first week and 300mg second week but that's because the weeks has 7 days, not 8 :/
Its alternating 3-4 cause on an eod schedule one week is 4 shots a week the next is 3 shots. he just wrote it kinda confusing.
Like big toe said 1 oral only and if you decide to go with tbol , you're going to have to run it longer then 4 weeks. tbol is kinda weak it takes a few weeks to kick in.
AnonHello buddy, I would run only one oral for this cycle. Prob tbol as your wanting to gain muscle rather than cut. There is no need to run nolva through cycle, save it for pct. Keep an ai on hand incase of estro buildup however with what ur running you shouldnt need it. Pct is clomid 100,100,50,50 and nolva 40,40,20,20. Just my thoughts.
Thank you so much for you reply. The idea of adding stanozolol at the end of the cycle is to harden my muscles. I am also switching from TBol to Stanozolol to use different receptors.
I am running nolva because I have puberty gyno and I think I may be prone to gyno.
I'd change the PCT to the one you suggested, it makes sense to me.
AnonSee what fast48 said you can get what gains you want from that. Juat alter your dietfor cutting or bulking.These boys are here to help and they have probably forgot more about aas than the two of us put together know.
zewiAll very good points +1
VETO... what is your cycle experience?
This is my second cycle.
First one was 4 months ago with stanozolol only - 6 weeks 50mg ED
Gained 4kilos (from 96kilos to 100kilos at the end of the cycle) very clean and I was able to keep it all.
listen to fast, 1st cycle was a failure.run a propper test cycle, then add compounds once you've run a propper 1st cycle and have recoverd fully from it. remember-time on +pct=time off.okay:)