Back to business with a 12 weeks TestE
Hi guys,
I'm writing this thread because i feel like i wanna share with others my first testE cycle and in particular the experience (positive till this point) i had with Pharmacomstore.
Let me introduce myself first, i'm a 25 yo guy with a 6 years experience in the gym, sometimes it has been better than others, a couple years i even tried some amateur showing, then you know life, ups and downs...but got my decent experience on the matter, that's what i mean.
With times, I further developed what it was only a free time hobby in what is my reality today, certified personal trainer and currently studying to get a 3 years degree in physical education which i will further develop in a 2 years specialization in order to be, one day, athletic trainer.
After one of my many ups and downs during the last couple years, i decided it was finally time to get big and back to business.
As you may had imagine already, I'm not new to AAS, in the past i used to run some minimal cycles with minimal amount of gear with decent results (more is not always better right?).
It was something like you know oral and liquid winstrol, masteron, deca, eq for a total of 3 cycles.
SO, now, let's get back to important things.
My cycle will be 12 weeks, split in two weekly injections both 300mg of the Test E i got from Pharmacomstore which has arrived in my country (IT) in exactly 19 days, count some times for me to pay order, for them to collect money and prepare package and shipping i say i didn't wait so much, and it was well worth it anyway.
so my last test e injection will be in the middle of week 12 and i will then add clomid, proviron and ai in between week 14/15 or even sooner depending on the day i start feeling weak, that's gonna be the day.
I plan on using clomid, proviron and some ai between nolva and adex, think it will be nolva tho, which i got from pharmacomstore too!, for the first two weeks at 50mg daily...i will then decide if its better for me to have another couple of week at 25mg daily with the remains or just have another week at 50mg daily.
I have not even taking into consideration the fact i might find myself in need of an AI, i still am sure i won't, but purchased anyway.
I don't believe the take more approach, i still think more is not better, and i also think is good to let some estrogen flow through my body as long it's not doing damages, so...that's all.
-----Cycle info-----
Age 25
Height 174cm
Weight 84 kg with some fat
Training: a customized by myself form of TuT with supersets, heavy weights and drop sets, 5 to 6 times a week with cardio post workout...something like 2hours total (if i get too fat it will be morning cardio and training only)
Diet: starting with a 3k cal 50 30 20 which will probably ends up becoming a 40 40 20 by the time the test kicks in, minimal cheats, mostly good fats, heavy amount of solid foods, vit C, omega 3, vegetables 2/3x daily, lots of water and so on...all the good stuff you can read on every good bodybuilding internet source
Gears: 3 bottles of test e 300 from Pharmacomstore, 20 50mgs tabs of clomid (maybe i'll get some more), 20 1mgs tabs of adex, 20 50mgs tabs of proviron.
I will be posting the starting pic of me as now, blood test will be done at around week 5 right after an injection and some regular updates for you guys to see.
Thanks and stay tuned for my trasformation!
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Adex (0.25 ed as now) | Clomid | Aromasin | Nolvadex |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 600mg | ||||
| 2 | 600mg | ||||
| 3 | 600mg | ||||
| 4 | 600mg | ||||
| 5 | 600mg | ||||
| 6 | 600mg | ||||
| 7 | 600mg | ||||
| 8 | 600mg | ||||
| 9 | 600mg | ||||
| 10 | 600mg | ||||
| 11 | 600mg | ||||
| 12 | 600mg | ||||
| 13 | |||||
| 14 | 50ed | 12.5eod | 40ed | ||
| 15 | 50ed | 12.5eod | 20ed | ||
| 16 | 25ed | 7.5eod | 20ed | ||
| 17 | 25ed | 7.5eod | 20ed |
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Gear isn't used to get into shape it isn't a fucking get in shape drug. The idea is to look like you use gear before you even start. You don't even look like you've trained before or seen a gym. Take 3 or 4 years and get back to us. You have no business using gear now or in the near future. Get your ass in the gym and in the kitchen and stay there and build a base.
InvisusiraPm me and I will help you with your diet and nutrition.
rocketballzHere's the thing guy, you been on this site for a month or so? Not even..and you're telling actual physique competitors, bb'ers, and gym operators how you're going to do steroids come hell or high water. My understanding of the cycle log section is you post the log up PRE-CYCLE, NOT DURING, in order to get some feedback from those who have come before you. And being a fully mature man you take the flames and the good advice as it comes. At 25 you think you got this but you are so so wrong. Do you have baselines? Have you ever had bloods pulled pre, during, and 6 months post PCT? If so please do post those as well. However...I'm guessing you don't, tho I could be wrong (highly unlikely).
And you post up a pre cycle pic that took nerve to put up because you barely look masculine. If you are 25 chances are you have a natty test level in the 700's + which means you should try being TRULY disciplined and start your new journey by hitting the gym for 6 months (for starters...make the goal attainable and build from there) at 4-5 days a week without aas or any test boosters and go to sleep every night knowing you are taking care of yourself. Since uve done all these "cycles" in the past you may be hypogonadal (Low T)....so do yourself a favor and get bloods done once this trainwreck is over.
I don't know what to say bro. Believe it or not as you will, I would like everybody on this website to succeed. I don't know where you got the idea that you can truly benefit from anabolics with not much muscle on to start with. There's no sense in getting upset with all the folk that are telling you the same thing. It's not like anybody is trying to deprive you of success. Why would they?
Best of Luck,
GH
This reminds me of a friend of mine. Only works out if he's taking gear. I'm not trying to put you down brother, but you don't look like you've ever trained consistently in your life. I'm not sure how many cycles he's ran or what kind of random shit he's done, but he looks the same after years of abusing steroids. He'll blow up a bit, then stops or runs out most likely, then stops training and shrinks right back up. Has no understanding of building a base, being consistent on training, or how to eat to gain and keep it on. Most of all he doesn't understand that 90% of it is hard work, proper diet and the other 10% is gear, if you're doing everything correct. And most of all he's hard headed and won't listen so I don't bother. I feel like that's the way you see it, get on gear, then start working out. You have no base. Just being honest.
JasonPostYes this is just what I said !!
Bud, pls take no offense, but if that pic is current, you need to learn to lift better or eat better. Prob BOTH. YOU have NO business running gear. You have no foundation. You can definitely do much much more naturally with the proper eat, heavy lifting and rest. Stay away from gear.
Gianfreepd90check the update please and stop this bullshit i'm not able to train or figure out what works and what doesn't! i'd like to see some of you guys after 3 weeks when gear has not even fully kicked...
I know guys that never touch gear and have made great gains. Are You a Hard Gainer?? Good luck. I wont reply again, your attitude sucks.
I can see your update pic, but why have you taken the pre cycle pic down? Nothing to compare to now.....
Gianfreepd90Ah sorry maybe i was mad af yesterday and i took it down i will up it again no prob but if you guys assume\think i am full retard just because totally out of shape without even trying to let me explain and straight jumping on YOUR conclusion that an individual MUST take aas ONLY to get past his natural limitation looks to me nazi...im not an athlete and never will be so its pointless to me at this point of my life holding into this guess...i just wanted to get back in shape fast but with proper knowledge of course! I say if you generally dont have nice argumented things to say just keep it for yourselves because i wont even take in consideration...for others who want to explain and educate instead im thankful, telling me i should avoid aas is retarded...i hope you got this right because i won't repeat myself, i just thought it was nice to let everyone see what a simple cycle can do with proper training and nutrition and willpower to achieve a big change...AND i wanna get my 150$ discount from pharmacomstore once it will be all done!
Certainly don't bother reposting the pic on my account after that, I certainly am not interested. That's not a good attitude you're showing there young man.
(BTW your face is visible in one of the update pics).
Gianfreepd90thanks fixed...neither is a good attitude acting like you guys, but don't worry i am certainly not looking for anyone's approval here so......i am growth enough to take decision myself
you are no where's near ready for gear. Your attitude sucks. You don't loom like you train. Have no base. Are reckless with your decisions and your ignorant. You seem extremely uneducated about what all is involved in this life , seem to thing gear is the missing link. Your lazy. Your not ready and im not going to watch you shit on guys trying to help. Good bye.
But he's a certified personal trainer. What's his # Tony I need to hire this guy.
I'm the pope.
And I'm a ballet dancer.
If you look the part then you're hired!
You know I'd look hot in a tutu.
This remind me of a conversation I had with Viking a little while ago on a forum post. Tutus and bright luminous spandex were discussed in detail :-)
So this is what I said to you. Read it again:
Purely to tell you I can't see the previous pic. And you respond telling me "I won't repeat myself". Who do you think you are?
And why am I included in that? Bit defensive, no?
Why post then? You've got some negative feedback which you've kicked off about, but you're not looking for approval. I've no idea why you're throwing your toys out if the pram at me.....
Gianfreepd90Ofc I am defensive, all i get is dont do this dont do that this is bad this is wrong like im a 5 years old...i find it hilarious, sorry it was a general global response because im becoming tired since i got nothing to prove to anybody but still trying to explain myself...dont worry i guess ill post a final pic after albuterol and masteron where i will be another person just for the 150$ bonus since this log its not interesting to the people and also causing unwanted "frictions?"
No / it's your piss poor childish attitude causing "frictions".
If you can't take critique, (which has come from guys that are good bodybuilders who I know and respect), then DON'T POST. Grow up or fk off.
Do yourself a favour, don't respond to me again.
Your pct is fucked. NO proviron in pct, if you're gonna run proviron then it goes along with test. Arimidex is a poor choice to use during pct, aromasin is better. Adex is great during the cycle, not pct. Clomid and Nolva. Look through the cycle logs for a better setup of pct.
Gianfreepd90I did used some in the past, laughable prescribed by my doctor and it did worked very well along with hcg tbh...but okay i won't use it and i will get some nolva!
I'm confused, what's your pct? Clomid, proviron, adex and maybe some nolvadex? Needs to be majorly re worked if that's the case bro, shit is no bueno.
Gianfreepd90Nono pct will be clomid and adex to keep down estro, some proviron to keep covered the roughest days, thats it. No hcg unless i notice my balls will be too shrinked or something which i feel they won't...what should a pct looks like in your opinion? I used proviron and hcg once and it did worked out well...because i didnt need ai from the deca
I wouldn't use proviron or adex in pct. Proviron has been proven to be suppressive so not a good idea to use it when you are trying to re start your own natural test production.
I don't think you would need an AI during pct. Your basic nolvadex/clomid combo should be fine. You are trying to return your hormones to normal, that includes estrogen. There really shouldn't be that much circulating once you start pct anyways, I have yet to see a huge estrogen rebound (with blood work to prove it) from a basic test cycle.
And while the nolvadex/clomid won't lower your estro, it will keep any estro sides at bay. By the time pct is over you shouldn't need to worry about it anymore. If you are really worried about it you could run a very low dose of aromasin the first week or two in pct. There's no chance for estro rebound and it has been shown to help boost test levels slightly.
Gianfreepd90Thanks for your input! Yes mate very basic stuff...also if it won't be enough to get decently normal i will pump up more stuff in the next winter cycle, not a big deal to lose some weight in the worst scenario, thanks for the proviron info, i was a bit corcerned but it did worked for me in the past..
No problem bro, and try and get some blood work. I like to do it right after pct to see if my pct meds were legit and again at the 6-8 week mark post pct.