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  • Jon72831175   •   Mon, Dec 18th, '17 20:54   •   11 replies, 406 views

Cycle layout

WeekTestosterone EnanthatedecaAI
1250mg 250mg
2250mg
3250mg250 mg
4250mg
5250mg250mg
6250mg
7250mg250mg
8250mg
9250mg250mg
10250mg
11250mg
12250mg250mg
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Description, concerns and expectations

I used gear as a ball player under team doctor supervision in late 80’s and early 90’s. So I pretty much did as they said.
I started up again two years ago (26 years later).
I usually run 250mg test e for 12 weeks then 2 weeks after last pin I do 8 weeks of pct.

Diet super clean

I’m looking for input on a 12 week cycle of test e at 250 mg per week. Deca @ 250mg every other week and AI at .50 ml eod.

Caloric intake 3200-3500 calories a day. All grilled chicken and veggies. Supplement w shakes amazing greens fish oil etc

Every 8 weeks I donate a unit of whole blood.

I’m planning to cycle on end of January.

I apologize for any confusion on cycle chart. It’s 250mg test e EVery weeks and Deca 250mg every other week. Either Aaron at .50ml eod or nolvadex

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  • Makwa's picture
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  • Makwa
  • 12 months ago

Have you ever ran deca before?

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  • Jon72831175
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Yes. Low dosages 200mg every other week

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Are you just using the Deca for joint relief. That is about all you are going to get from it from that dose.
Are you on TRT?

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  • Jon72831175
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My test levels Pre cycle are around 640. I’m 49 years old I have used deca in the past but low doses. 100mg per week. I want to take advantage of deca mass building abilities but don’t want to go on a unusual high dose. I’m looking for input on appropriate dosage.

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The reason I asked about whether or not TRT is because Deca can be real bitch as far a shutdown goes. At your age that might be what puts you over the top and on to TRT which you obviously want to avoid. I think using Deca here is going to make things a whole lot more complicated than they need to be. You are going to have to now be aware of potential problems with prolactin and much more diligent with estro control to avoid any serious problems. Where you are at right now I really see no advantages to include Deca into a cycle compared to something like 400-500mg/wk test e cycle. What do you have planned for PCT?
Any Idea on your BF%?

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My PCT is 8 weeks started two weeks after last pin. I use nolvodex clomid and an AI for 8 weeks. I drop the AI after two weeks.
BF is 8 percent.

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With Deca I wouldn’t run nolvadex on PCT due to progesterone

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  • larry-k
  • 12 months ago

As regards your test, 250mg test pretty much replicates what your body would produce endogenously, maybe a little higher at 300-350mg once a week might be better if you're looking to grow. Deca is a long ester but I would probably pin it at least once a week to ensure stability of blood levels. Your doses are pretty low and considering you said you've ran this exact cycle before maybe upping doses as a progression is advisable but would be conscious of what your overall goal is?
Also good idea donating blood every few weeks if on, keeps hematocrit (RBC's) in check

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250 mgs a weeks puts someone well above his natural production. If your country allows blood donations every few weeks, that’s great. In the States it’s allowed every 8 weeks.

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I have always been conservative on my dosages. I realize they are relatively low. The 350 range is fine. As for deca if EW then I would look at 125 mg EW or should I slightly bring that up.

I appreciate feedback as I will not claim to be a know all. I do my due diligence on research and thought process BEFORE I do anything. I respect this forum and advice if so many that know so much more than me.

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Yeah conservative for sure is the way to go, better safe than sorry. Well you could either stick with your previous dosage of test and add in another compound or just increase your test levels. 125mg is a low dose of deca but obviously there's no point jacking it up and shutting down completely. 200mg to me would still be a relatively safe dose but you'll probably see more benefit from just upping your test a little more