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6 week weight loss

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

I will be doing a 6 week weight loss cycle using oxandrolone and meal replacements. The cycle begins as soon as I have kicked this cold cough.

I will take 40 mg of oxandrolone per day every day for six weeks, and then I will begin my pct. During this time I will perform resistance training everyday on a four day split. As for nutrition I will replace my meals with VLCD nutritional powder plus an energy drink during training and a protein bar after training. The VLCD powder has the following nutritional data:

Nutritional values Per 100 g Per day
Energy (KJ/kcal) 1526/365 2930/700
Fat 7,9 g 15 g
- of which saturates 1,7 g 3,3 g
Carbohydrates 37 g 71 g
- of which sugars 20 g 38 g
Dietary fibre 11 g 22 g
Protein 38 g 73 g
Salt 1,2 g 2,3 g
Vitamin A (µg) 521 1000
Vitamin D (µg) 3,9 7,5
Vitamin E (µg) 5,2 10
Vitamin K (µg) 37 70
Vitamin C (mg) 43 82
Vitamin B1 (mg) 0,7 1,4
Vitamin B2 (mg) 0,9 1,7
Niacin (mg) 12 23
Vitamin B6 (mg) 1,1 2,1
Folic acid (µg) 416 799 
Vitamin B12 (µg) 2,1 4
Biotine (µg)  63 121
Pantothenic acid (mg) 2,6  5

With the above and the daily protein bar and energy drink, I will eat roughly 1000 calories per day. Additionally I will take appropriate vitamin pills and fish oil.

WeekOxandrolone (daily dose in mg)
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giardap's picture

Desperado stuff here

Get yourself to a head doctor

Your fat problem is a head problem. Get it sorted

Ditch the drugs

That sorts stoooooopid approach could cost you your life (in time)

PPGfreak's picture

I completely disagree with your cycle and diet plan. And no I'm not someone that's in perfect shape that has never been overweight before. You're more than welcome to look at my before-and-after pictures. But you want to do this correctly so you can maintain muscle while you lose fat. Your plan is going to involve using both equally.

BouldersForShoulders's picture

Just had a look at your pics bro. Truely amazing transformation and will give me the kick up the back side I need.

Do you have any of your diet and training regimes on the forum anywhere? Would make a great interesting read. And would certainly help me map out my goals for the coming months

Jayzgainz's picture

Never looked at your profile before. Dam! Thats an extremely impressive transformation. Did you keep a log of what you did?

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PPGfreak's picture

Yes sir! It's long though haha

The Impastable's picture

X2. Don't do it the wrong way, you'll Yo Yo right back to where you started.

PPGfreak's picture

Thanks brother!

JARHEAD2's picture

Yes absolutely awesome work brotha!!

PPGfreak's picture

Thank you guys, I mean that. I'd be more than happy to give any bro advice on how to do it a safe and efficient way.

But when I comes to sending men my way.... I'm not really into that. I prefer Asian girls Smile

dbombs's picture

Hey pal. At 280 lb, cutting down to only a thousand calories a day is too far too soon. Try dropping 500 calories or so per day each week to gradually work your way down.

Your diet needs to be real foods not Replacements and supplements. To keep it relatively simple here, you need a combination of diet and a slow reduction in calories, not AAS. Anavar will do nothing to help you at your current weight and body fat and you just be wasting your money.

There are some really great forms here on dieting, cardio, and exercise. Start here and forget any AAS until you're at least sub 20% body fat if not more.

It sounds like you've made some good progress so far which is great . Just don't fall for the assumption that AAS is your solution because it absolutely is not. Diet, proper macros, proper exercise, and proper cardio will keep you moving in the right direction

Good luck pal!

tomhaverford's picture

You are no doubt correct, unfortunately when it comes to "Diet, proper macros, proper exercise, and proper cardio ", I have only ever managed the two latter. It is my hope that the oxandrolone will provide both the motivation for maintaining the 6 week diet plus some added anabolic benefits. I am currently able to just hold by bodyweight, whilst eating what feels right and normal to me (after my surgery), but I still need the weight to come down.

redsquat's picture

Hi Brother,
relatively new to AAS and was also heavy at one point as well, about 245lbs doing dirty bulk and powerlifting. correct me if im wrong, you are about 5’8, 280lbs? how many lbs are you planning to loose? Back when i did my massive cut (being heavy was getting old), I ate about 2 to 2.5k clean calories and did massive amounts of cardio. Went as low as 177lbs within 6months, however lost a lot of muscle as well. I couldn’t imagine eating less 1.5k calories and still workout

tomhaverford's picture

Hello redsquat, thank you for taking interest.

That's a lot of weight you have lost, well done!

The reasoning behind my plan is mainly that I have an addictive relationship to my food. I started out at 160 kg (forgive the metric units), then I went to 147 kg. Then I had gastric sleeve surgery and went down to 135 kg. Then I trained and trained and arrived and occasionally did NUPO (the company which manufacturers my meal replacement http://nupo.com/) and went to 128 kg. Which is where I begin now. I find it extremely difficult to sustain NUPO motivation wise. I figure that if I raise the stakes by adding a mild steroid such as anavar, I will experience a sudden change. I hope to be able to lose perhaps as much as 15 kg in the six weeks. The truth is that I do not really perceive much improvement in my day to day life even after the ~30 kg weight loss. I hope that losing further weight in a very short period of time will help me actually perceive the difference. Further, I wish to examine my emotional state when I'm not eating further. For this my therapist will help. So I am beginning an exciting time in my life, and I invite you and others to observe my progress, as I plan to make weekly and detailed reports!

redsquat's picture

I’m really glad that you have taken an interest in turning your life around. I cannot comment anything about anavar, as i have not taken it myself. Although I can give you pointers I used back when I was loosing weight:
1. No soda, juices, sweeteners - extra calories
2. No drinking - removes inhibitions
3. No cheat days - ok maybe once in a while. lol
4. be consistent!!!
5. Calculate Macros, set macros that would fit your goal.
6. Cook you own food/ meal preps
7. water water water water water
8. Do cardio, Try to be a decent runner. My goal before was 50km/wk
9. intermittent fast - this one is controversial though. I used it as a tool to satiate my hunger better as i was used to eating large amounts of food per meal.
10. sleep 8hrs
this is what worked for me before, hopefully you can get something out of it.
the trick is really being consistent. surround yourself with positive people.
Goodluck with your endevour!

Jayzgainz's picture

I was going to write all this but you beat me to it. OP...small steps. I know the changing of dietbcan be a bitch. Counting macros. All that shit. Start a food journal. See how much and qhat you eat during the day. I think you will be surprised. Then find one thing you can cut out. Go too fast and you will fail. Start taking the stairs vs elevator. Drop soda 100% water only. And lots of it. I find it a pain to chug from a gallon jug so I have a small shaker that I fill repeatedly throughout the day. If you get sick of water get some Mio. But get the naturally sweetened kind and blast that. Like said already if you try to cut to much out or do to much its not gonna work. And when you start to feel better and see the lbs come off it will start a stemroller effect. You will want more. Much cardio but weight training as well. You will burn off tons of calories liftng. Try circuit type training. Pm me and I will tell you what I did. Ive already written a book here. I personally would skip the Anavar but thats all I'm going to comment on that. Good luck.

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tomhaverford's picture

Thank you for taking interest!
I have been through a lot of your suggestions, plus gastric sleeve surgery (which does not touch the intestines, so will not interfere with drug absorption), and I have already lost as weight as I feel I can. Now I feel the need to step it up. In this regard anavar will serve to purposes: 1: Provide anabolic effect, 2: provide motivation. Knowing that I'm taking a big chance like with the weight loss surgery, I hope will provide me with the motivation I need to move forward (or downwards in terms of BMI).

Tell me, does my above reasoning seem coherent? I realize that I deviate from generally accepted guidelines, but those guidelines have only gotten me part of the way there.

protonguy123's picture

Hi Tom,
Just to add a little bit of info, have you had your primary physician take a look at your over all heath? blood work and all? taking AAS will take a toll on your health especially ORALS.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/too-much-oral...

Please do a lot of research and reading first before you plan on anything. Check the forum section!!!
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/beginner%E2%80%99s-gui...

I honestly believe that you can reach your ideal weight without the use of Anabolics!

tomhaverford's picture

I got extensive blood work, and everything is fine. Though my testosterone levels are on the lower end of the acceptable spectrum. Near the 5 percentile. I also purchased and read Anabolics by William Llewellyn.

Jayzgainz's picture

Yes, I understand where you coming from for sure.Sometimes that extra bit to motivate us is what is needed. I'm curious as to why you believe anavar will do it for you? Dont get me wrong. The 1st time I ran a test cycle I completely changed my diet, started living cleaner and smarter. I wanted to get everything I could from what I was taking. So I get that. I cant say taking Anavar alone would be beneficial and its not something I would do or reccomend to any of my friends. Have a clear set goal and know how to get there. Any compound is only as good as we make it. Something else to think about. The food supplement you listed that you will be taking to to get to 1000cal. 1st, thats no where near enough cals. If ur hungry all day you will fail. If you havent yet figure your tdee and get your macros calculated. Even if you dont stick to them juat have a number in the back of your head in case you want to cheat. Whatever your caloric needs daily are drop that nu.ber by 500. Small steps brother. Oh, and that supplement...you cannot rely on that for your entire nutrition. You need real whole foods. To get whole proteins, all your aminos etc. Do yourself a favor and throw some eggs in there or lean meats or whatever. Just use food. Anyway I am definitely no pro I can only tell you what has worked for me amd good advice i have gotten from others and share it. Shoot me a fr if you want

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tomhaverford's picture

Thank you very much for the advice and the encouragement!

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