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  • Ram21's picture
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  • Edit4th cycle, Test cyp,Test 400, Tren E, Mast E

  • Ram21   •   Sun, Dec 11th, '16 18:24   •   12 replies, 429 views

Cycle layout

WeekTest. Cyp (25mg/ml)T400 (400mg/ml)Tren. E (200mg/ml)Mast. E (200mg/ml)
1250mg400mg200mg200mg
2250mg400mg400mg400mg
3250mg400mg400mg400mg
4250mg400mg400mg400mg
5300mg400mg400mg400mg
6300mg500mg400mg400mg
7300mg500mg400mg400mg
8300mg500mg400mg400mg
9350mg600mg400mg400mg
10350mg600mg400mg400mg
11350mg600mg400mg400mg
12120mg

Description, concerns and expectations

looking for gain lean muscle
this is my 4th cycle
Height 6.0
Weight 83
Age: 29
have a PCT plan but just need advice regarding cycle dosage

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  • backonroids's picture
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  • backonroids
  • 3 months ago

Easier just to do test and maybe throw in a oral and have a decent diet plus it will save money on expensive products and pinning loads . Look at the positives mate :)

  • PPGfreak's picture
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  • PPGfreak
  • 3 months ago

Bro I'm 98kgs and 5'9 so you need to learn how to eat! Diet is key to growing OR cutting. You need calories not gear.

  • TheFlash85's picture
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  • TheFlash85
  • 3 months ago

6 foot and 83kgs? Thats quite skinny bro, no offence, im with the guys below, no need for the tren or mast. Maybe stick with the test if you have your diet up to scratch and im talking a steady 4000cals minimum a day of good clean foods, if not dont bother. You are many moons away from tren/ mast combos etc you need to bulk up first.

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  • Irontherapy
  • 4 months ago

That's a shitload of compounds if your stats really are 6'1 183. Like swole said just get your diet right, run a simple test/tren cycle and you will blow up. Food food food.

  • Swole's picture
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  • Swole
  • 4 months ago

Honestly I think you'd be better off just eating more. You're 6 foot and weigh 183lbs? How lean are you?
What cycles have you ran before?
What AI's are you using?
Are you going to use caber? Prami?

  • Ram21's picture
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yes 183lb and 8% bf
I ran test and deca before
what's problem with this cyc?

  • MegaTRON13's picture
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  • MegaTRON13
  • 3 months ago
  • @Ram21

What were you 130lbs before you started?!?! Get your skinny ass in the kitchen and get off AAS. You're skin and bones LMAO. This is your 4th cycle?!?! I started working out at my full potential 4 years ago, I started at 170lbs. I gained 30 natural lbs before even touching AAS. You've ran test and deca before??that's all great.. if you're not running it properly, what's the point? Why not run just test cyp or just test 400? Listen to people before getting defensive... if you have to ask yourself what's wrong with this cycle, then you need to do more research before posting this....

  • TheFlash85's picture
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Lol like ya style bro fr sent if were not already mates.

  • MegaTRON13's picture
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LoL thanks bro! Friend request accepted

  • Swole's picture
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Cycle layout isn't terrible, I'd do it different. However, you can gain so much more with a great diet. Post up your diet and we can help you out. You could easily gain 20 with just test, shoot probably without test! Not trying to be a dick,just looking out for ya.

  • irongame427's picture
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  • irongame427
  • 4 months ago
  • @Ram21

not to much wrong for the cycle, it just doesnt fit with someone of your stats. 6ft 183lbs, those are easily attainable without steroids, i went from 130-180s my first year lifting natty, not quite 8% bf but no more then 12. And youve already ran gear and your only 183lbs and proposing a run with the most powerful steroid on the market (tren). Your weight suggests one of two things to me, you dont have your diet squared away, which is why youre only 183lbs after already using steroids, test deca as a first cycle should have easily put 30lbs on you, so that would mean you were around 150lbs when you started using steroids which is way to small, but most likely you dont eat enough and you only put on a few pounds during that cycle. Orr 2, you havent been training very long which is why youre only 183lbs.

The problem with this cycle is its not meant for gym rats, and its really not a great steroid for bulking, some like it, but i dont and most of the long time vets i know dont like to use it for bulks. honestly tren should be left to those getting on stage, or straight fucking monsters who have so much muscle they absolutely need it to retain muscle while they cut. For most people, if you eat and train right, some prop, var and proviron will hold all your muscle and even add some while dieting, give you some awesome strength gains and leave you with a nice polished hard lean vascular look much like tren.

Get your diet squared away, if you insist on cycling find some good test e or c, run 500mgs for 12 weeks with proper pct, pound the food, 2g of protein per lb of bw, so close to 400g ed, train hard and smart, and rest. If you dont get up to a lean 200 from that even with a great diet, which i doubt, then this isnt the sport for you.

One last piece of advice, only try one new compound at a time, if youve never used tren or mast and you start getting side effects how will you know which drug is causing it? Or postive effects? Run it one at a time so you cna learn how it effects you so next time when you add something new and get a new side effect you can say to yourself, i never experienced this with X and X drugs, so it must be the new one.

  • Makwa's picture
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Clearly lacking in the diet department. Cycle is way over the top for stats and without the diet knowledge to maximize this cycle I see it doing more harm than good. I would post up your cal/macro count to see if we can get you on the right track before running a cycle.