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  • Edit2nd Cycle - T-bol kick start 16 weeks of Test.

  • BootyGear   •   Mon, Nov 21st, '16 20:11   •   23 replies, 325 views

Cycle layout

WeekT-bolSustanon 270Test E 250HCGNolvaClomidAromacin
150mg / Day540mg / W12.5 EOD
250mg / Day540mg / W12.5 EOD
350mg / Day540mg / W12.5 EOD
450mg / Day540mg / W12.5 EOD
5540mg / W12.5 EOD
6500mg / W12.5 EOD
7500mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
8500mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
9500mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
10500mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
11540mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
12540mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
13540mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
14540mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
15540mg / W500iu / W12.5 EOD
16500iu / W12.5 EOD
176.25 As needed
1840 mg / D50 mg / D
1940 mg / D50 mg / D
2020 mg / D50 mg / D
2120 mg / D50 mg / D

Description, concerns and expectations

After review and suggestion I'm deciding to scrap the cycle I had planned and rewrite a new cycle.

New cycle will consist of T-bol kick start along with 16 weeks of Test. Esters will be changed mid cycle from SUST - ENTH - SUST. PCT Clomid 50/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20 with HCG starting week 4 @ 400iu/ week.

Age: 26
Weight: 170
Height: 5'7
BF: 12%

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Comments

  • Makwa's picture
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  • Makwa
  • 3 months ago

Still can't wrap my head around why you are going from sust to test e and back to sust. Cycle is still whacked up.

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  • BootyGear
  • 3 months ago
  • @Makwa

I've heard there are benefits to switching esters mid cycle. Not sure if it's a great idea or just something pointless. Let me know what you have heard or experienced.

  • PropSlayer's picture
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In my experiences there is but not over a 16 week period. That applies more to people who are on test year round. On a 16 week cycle there's no point

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  • PropSlayer
  • 3 months ago

Dude this is way too much for a second cycle ever. You're also pretty light I don't think you'd even need gear to grow at 170 pounds

  • The Impastable's picture
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  • The Impastable
  • 3 months ago

Slow it down for your second cycle. Add in one new compound per cycle... focus on either cutting or bulking.

  • Rustyhooker's picture
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  • Rustyhooker
  • 3 months ago

Completely over the top. Post body pic too.

  • Makwa's picture
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  • Makwa
  • 3 months ago

Over driving your headlights with that cycle. Why do you feel you need to jump into a multi-compound cycle for your second one?

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  • BootyGear
  • 3 months ago
  • @Makwa

With this cycle I believe I would be able to lean bulk until the EQ kicks in, and then continue to re-comp throughout while adding Anavar as a finisher. I understand its a little more advanced cycle involving EQ and the higher dosage of Anavar but once again, I am open to suggestions and tweaks. I am also aware that the test is higher than a standard dose @600mg/week and I haven't found info on Test to EQ Ratios.

Open to all advice's , Thank you

  • Makwa's picture
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Manipulate your diet to suit your goals. What you have going on here with this cycle and your reasoning is really strange.

  • Gymjunkie01's picture
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Lean bulk is like Santa clause !!!!! ITS BULLSHIT

  • MedDx's picture
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Lol...

  • Pmob's picture
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Not sure how your going to Lean Bulk with those compounds?

  • The Impastable's picture
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  • The Impastable
  • 3 months ago
  • @Pmob

Magic unicorn sprinkles from the forbidden forest.

  • bigmurph's picture
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  • bigmurph
  • 3 months ago

What are your prior cycles?

  • BootyGear's picture
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Previously I've only done 1 12 week cycle with Test Cyp 250mg 2x / week. PCT is same gains were nice and steady. Not estro sensitive so I mostly used my AI aromacin at 12.5mg average every 2 days.

  • MedDx's picture
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How much weight did you gain, and how much was kept on your first cycle?

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  • BootyGear
  • 3 months ago
  • @MedDx

Went from 160 at 10%bf to 176 at 12%. Currently in week 1 of PCT and stable at 170lbs 10-12%.
So overall Gained 16lbs kept 10. Going to post an updated cycle and let me know what you guys think. Thanks

  • MedDx's picture
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Do you find that packing down calories is challenging? Eating isn't as easy as it looks... :)

  • BootyGear's picture
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  • BootyGear
  • 3 months ago
  • @MedDx

It can be. But I keep my diet in check. A lot of it is just eating the same foods day in and day out. Currently I'm eating around 3700. Protein 220 , carbs 500, fat 100. Pretty clean. My staples are 8oz chicken 8oz ground turkey 2 cups of rice, 2 packets of oatmeal, whey, mass gainer, walnuts. Then it's just iifym from there but I'm thinking I need to incorporate a few more bro foods; I need eggs more often. I could always use some diet tips so if you got any a PM would be greatly appreciated!

  • Makwa's picture
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Only wk 1 of PCT so you have a ways to go yet. You know what your net gains will be a month or so after your PCT ends. Premature to assume your net gains right now.

  • bigmurph's picture
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I would recommend stick with the test and add your oral. I wouldn't run var that high if you have to run it that high its not good var. Stick around 50mgs split and choose which var you use carefully.
Did you run blood work on your first cycle?

  • BootyGear's picture
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No bloods last cycle. Currently in week 1 of PCT. Will do bloods 6 weeks after PCT.

  • did keep an eye on Blood pressure throughout cycle and was in healthy range. average 120 / 65-70. Only times I noticed a raise in blood pressure was when I hadn't taken my AI and went up around 130 / 70.

Will get actual blood work through lab corp. Had no idea the Privatemdlabs was a thing.

  • bigmurph's picture
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Yeah private med labs is great
Your in pct right now I suggest strongly taking a long break before the next run your at 170lbs going into pct so say you drop 10lbs of water that puts you at 160lbs.
Put on a little bit heavier of a natty base shoot for around 180lbs natty.
If you can put on 20lbs natty which you definitely can your diet will be where it needs to be for you to run a solid cycle that you will be extremely happy with. I believe that you want to add multiple compounds because maybe you were disappointed with your first run.
My first tip read everything makwa has ever written go into his profile and read all his forum posts. Stick around here read everything possible.
Get through your pct take the nice break keep killing it in the gym. Then after that repost I believe that your approach to what and how you will run your next cycle will be completely different from this cycle posted.
Good luck and good gains brother