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2nd Cycle Need advice/critique

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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

This will be my second cycle. First cycle was 500mg of Test E/Week. Good results It's been over a year since I've run anything. Goal is to add quality muscle not just blow up on something like test/deca/dbol. So through research I've landed on test/eq/var.

Bloods

Testosterone 600 ng/dL 250 - 1100 ng/dL
Testosterone, Free 80.2 pg/mL 46.0 - 224.0 pg/mL
Testosterone, Bioavailable 185.8 ng/dL 110.0 - 575.0 ng/dL
SHBG 33 nmol/L 10 - 50 nmol/L
Albumin 5.1 g/dL 3.6 - 5.1 g/dL
Estradiol 34 pg/mL < OR = 39 pg/mL
FSH 6.5 mIU/mL 1.6 - 8.0 mIU/mL
LH 3.7 mIU/mL 1.5 - 9.3 mIU/mL
5'6 176 going to cut to 11% BF before hopping back on. It's been a rough year. Just want to make sure I have my cycle dialed in. Probably won't run for another 6 months. Going dial diet and routine back in. Diet down to a T. I've cut and massed naturally to 10%BF. I've topped at 190lbs. Going to run 500mg Test C/week for 12 weeks dosed twice a week. 200mg EQ/week dosed once for 10 weeks. Last 4 weeks 30mg/day of var. Going to run nolva the whole cycle at 20mg/eod unless estro sides rise then 20mg every day until sides subside. Ending the EQ early so that test and eq clear around the same time.

PCT will start 14 week after last shot of test with 1000 units of HCG every other day for 8 days. Week 15 will be 500 units of HCG ever other day with 20mg of Nolva/Day and 50mg of Clomid/Day. Week 16 will cut the HCG and continue on the 20mg/day of Nolva and 50mg/Day Clomid.

(the last two weeks on they test is at 500mg because i have 1 bottle 200teste/200eq 2 bottles test E 250 so will do 1 shot of the blend and 1 shot of the test for 10 weeks then 2 shots of test for the last 2)

WeekTestosterone CypEQ VarNovaHCGClomid
1450mg200mg20
2450mg200mg20
3450mg200mg20
4450mg200mg20
5450mg200mg20
6450mg200mg20
7450mg200mg20
8450mg200mg20
9450mg200mg30mg/day20
10450mg200mg30mg/day20
11500mg30mg/day20
12500mg30mg/day20
1320
14204000iu
15202000iu50mg
162050mg
171025mg
181025mg
press1's picture

200mg/wk of E.Q won't do much for anyone, why are you basically running a cutting cyle at 176lb's?

Makwa's picture

So through research I've landed on test/eq/var.

You need to do alot more research. This whole cycle is a mess.

SWOLVERINE's picture

Looking at the cycle excel spreadsheet from my phone it looks jacked up compared to when I laid it out on the computer last night. Everything is jumbled on the phone view. I’m not sure if that’s what you’re saying is a mess or if my doses and pct are.

TrenLiver's picture

I don’t think 10 weeks is long enough for a EQ run and 200mg week is IMO a waste of money.
I would consider at least 16 weeks and 400-500 mg P week.
I would re-evaluate this and research some more.
Just my opinion

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Makwa's picture

What is possessing you to pin 200mg of EQ?

SWOLVERINE's picture

My thought process being that I’ve never run the compound before and do not know how the sides will effect me. I’m I was trying to decide what was best for me on a second compound to add deca or eq. My understanding is that your co compound should be run at half the dose of your test. I feel like people tend to run high doses of everything right out of the gate. Why not get the most out of the least amount you have to. If I had good results with test at 500 it would make sense to me that the addition of 200mg eq would be boosted by the test I’m already on. I get sides pretty easily so bumping test up to 750 just to run deca or eq at 350-400 doesn’t seem like the right move for me. The thing with eq is it has a long ester and takes time to build up in the system and is a dryer compound that doesn’t produce as much immediate visible mass so people up the dose until they get the results they should from it. Am I completely off base? Would 200mg eq/week be a waste?

Makwa's picture

Am I completely off base?

You aren't even on the same playing field. You need to at least read through the stickies on this site as a starting point and then do some searches with the blue magnifying glass up top. This is basic stuff that you aren't comprehending.

TrenLiver's picture

X2. I would have assumed 10 weeks was an issue too.

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IrishMack's picture

Lack of research.

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