2nd cycle
6'3" 215, 14-15% bf. My goal is to look good for the summer. Simple as that. I have always been pretty lean and would like to thicken up a bit too but not sure if I should be adding something like NPP to this cycle. I'm guessing not. I am a bit prone to gyno and have all 3 main AI's in case. My first cycle was 500mgs/ week of test C and the results were great. After a successful pct I kept about 8 lbs of lean mass (after I dropped the water weight), which I was happy with. For this cycle I am thinking of a prop taper at the end and maybe 50 mgs of Anavar/day for the last 4-6 weeks as a finisher. I am open to suggestions...especially about the prop taper. I would prefer to not have to wait 2-3 weeks to start pct. Also...is a 16 week test cycle a bad idea? My first was 12 weeks and I recovered beautifully. Thanks guys!
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | HCG | Test Prop | Anastrozole | Clomid | Nolvadex | Aromasin | Anavar |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | |||||||
| 2 | 500mg | |||||||
| 3 | 500mg | 0.5 mg eod | ||||||
| 4 | 500mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | |||||
| 5 | 500mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | |||||
| 6 | 500mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | |||||
| 7 | 500mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | |||||
| 8 | 500mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | |||||
| 9 | 500mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | |||||
| 10 | 500mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | |||||
| 11 | 500 mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | 50 mg | ||||
| 12 | 500 mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | 50 mg | ||||
| 13 | 500 mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | 50 mg | ||||
| 14 | 500 mg | 250-500 iu | 0.5 mg eod | 50 mg | ||||
| 15 | 100 mg/ed | 0.5mg eod | 50 mg | |||||
| 16 | 100 mg/ed | 0.5 mg eod | 50 mg | |||||
| 17 | 100 mg | 40 mg | 6.25 eod | |||||
| 18 | 100 mg | 40 mg | 6.25 eod | |||||
| 19 | 50 mg | 20 mg | ||||||
| 20 | 50 mg | 20 mg | ||||||
| 21 | ||||||||
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Just something to think about here. If your BF is low enough towards the end of the cycle I would go more towards a TRT dose of test to minimize any water you may be holding because of the test and let the effects of the var show through without being watered down. If you are not in the single digits BF at the end I would skip the var all together and just focus on nailing your test p taper right.
rocketballzThanks bro! We'll see where my bf is toward the end of the cycle. Fr sent.
P2i2tif I were to run 500mg test e and do a prop taper this is how I would do it....
Week 1-12 test e 500
(Week 14,15,16 prop taper at 50mg ed or 100mg eod
Take week 13 off from test so the enanthate will gradually lower its levels to incorporate a smooth transition into doing only the 350mg a week taper.
like I said, this is just the way I have done it and it works lovely.
Also I recommend researching actually cycling HCG within your cycle. using it consistently for too long a period Of time can desensitize your Leydig cells. that is definitely something I would check out. And maybe wait until later in your cycle to begin use.
rocketballzI've read that about HCG and the desensitize thing with the Leydig cells. I think I will take your advice and look into cycling the HCG. Thanks bud
P2i2tanytime my friend.glad you are considering this.not saying you don't know this already but also just try to keep in mind that HCG also raises your E2 levels as well. so once you do begin using it make sure to keep a close to "feel" on your estrogen levels and try to dial in that AI dose appropriately
AnonWould just go 12 weeks test e again, 3 week prop kicker and taper @ 100mg eod. Var last 3 weeks of test e and 3 week prop taper @ 75mg, so 6 weeks total for the var. AI as needed. I like proviron @ 50mg in all my cycles now as well.
rocketballzThat makes a lot of sense to me. I'll have to mull over the cycle length. I would love to try proviron but I think it would be hell on my already fragile hairline. Thanks man!
AnonJust shave your head thats what I do ;-P
rocketballzJB - yea the prop taper / kicker is really what I'm zeroing in on here for this cycle. I can save all other compounds or next cycles. I really like what I hear about npp but I think for this one I want to get the kicker / taper thing down properly. Thanks
I would drop the test e a week early and add another week of prop. It can take longer than 2 weeks for the enan to clear your system. Plus 1cc EOD is pretty much 3 weeks anyway. Also, why not kickstart with an oral. Superdrol will give you good dry gains. 3 weeks is all you need. Guys are putting on 10-20 pounds in 3 weeks using the stuff. Gonna run it with some Sust next winter myself. I would run the var 50/50/75/75/100/100. You will not get much keeping the dose constant for 6 weeks.
rocketballzThat's insane! 10-20 lbs in 3 weeks? It's gotta be mostly water I would think but still....I agree about the var. The dosage could use some tweaking. Thanks for the input!