-1 1st cycle: tobal
Hi,
This is going to be my 1st steroids cycle ever and i choose to go with the oral steroids only route. I have done my reading on steroids and understanding many don't like the idea of oral steroids only cycle but i have made up my mind so please respect my decision.
For this cycle i was debating between anavar or tbol but after reading about the two im deciding to go with tbol 1st and see how it goes, and perhaps anavar for my next cycle if i ever decide to run gear again. I choose tbol for its muscle mass building benefits not so much for the strength department. Im going to be using it while on a clean bulk, hopefully ill be seeing some great results in lean mass development.
Dosage: 300 x 10mg pills
80mg ed for ~ 5 weeks
Pct: 20 x 50mg clomid for 17 days
200mg 1st day in pct and 50mg for 16days
Stats:
28 years old
5'8.5 and 192 bls
Bf: 9%
Years training: over 10 years give and take
Any pointers on the dosage timing and if i should slip it into two am/pm and any other ideas/suggestions that can help a newbie to oral steroids would be greatly appreciated.
Ill be starting my cycle in couple of weeks and ill keep you guys updated, With before and after pictures.
| Week | tbol |
|---|---|
| 1 | 80mg |
| 2 | 80mg |
| 3 | 80mg |
| 4 | 80mg |
| 5 | 80mg |
| pct | clomid |
| day 1 | 200mg |
| 16 days | 50mg |
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It took me two years of homework before I did my first cycle, then I finnaly did it. I started small to get a feel for it with 500mg of Test Cyp a week pin 2x a week and ran 12 weeks and it was Awsome. I to was afraid of losing my hair and now I have ran 7 cycles since then and I still have all my hair but at the age of 45 I look awesome. I started at 190lbs now I'm at 125lbs and just started my 8th cycle doing Sustanon 250 @ 750mg a week. I tried orals once and I personally will never do them again they are hard on kidney and liver and I have a brother n law dieing from kidney failure I will not do them I value my health.
Good luck!
He didn't get kidney desease from orals. I just want to protect mine.
P2i2tGreat advice! Yes, I always start two weeks prior and run it at least a couple of weeks afterwards as well. I consistently run liv 52 and milk thistle, but the aegis I start two weeks prior to and usually end at least a couple of weeks after tunning my orals.I didn't think to throw this in there as well. It is something I do but didn't quite think to point it out as well. Its just always automatic for me. Thank you
Anonhttps://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/tbol-only-cycle-...
I think Viking made the rule regarding advice for oral only cycles abundantly obvious in your other thread. Take it up with him if you have any more concerns.
Wow there are a lot of bitch like behavior here for punch of grown ass men lol
Honestly, i dont know much about the rules here, but i didn't try to offend anyone by posting about an oral cycle only!!!!! I thought since this site is called "eroid" i can feel comfortable about asking any questions regarding "roids" and perhaps help a newbie out, instead i got a whole lot of bitching smh
However, there were few ppl here actually tried to help even though they didn't agree with my choise but they knew is better to help instead of whine and complain. Thank you, i truly appreciate your feedback and i will look more into it.
I just pinned 2 compounds in my left glute real bitch like. Sorry not sorry I couldn't help more after reading this! Cheers!
Thanks bro
Dont be scared of the needle homie.
A tbol only cycle is kinda boring. It's one dimensional. It's a teenie bopper Cycle.
Chances are you will get better results from eating right and learning how to train.
Hahaha im not scared of needles im scared of losing my hair bro
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P2i2tconsidering you have the same topic under a post in your forums that I commented on I am going to copy and paste my comment from that one to this one as well. that way when you go back and look at either of them the information will be there for you regardless of which one you are looking at.to be honest I didn't even realize I was commenting on two different posts. I thought it was the same one lol so, Copy and paste...
Watch man.. "flacid dude" or whatever his name is from below will bash you for providing this kind of opinion. But anyway +1 for a good opinio.
He gave much better advice than you gave. Trust, I didn't bash you. I criticized your advice. I'm not the only one who thinks that's bad advice on here my dude. Quit playing victim to the little bit of karma when I'd tell you the same things with a karma of 5.
Ohh and maybe even neg you.
Well, looks like I'm not the only one who negged you for being the way you were, but since you're so sore about it, here's a +1 to remove the neg.
Yeah? Probably you you on one of your other accounts. That you use to get more promos, using your moms address.
Damn. Look at you! You're on a roll! Have me all figured out! Whatever will I do now!? I shudder to think. Derp! Move along now. Just don't give any more horrible advice and no one will call you out on it. Done with you son.
PS: talk to a MOD about those other negs and they'll tell you who negged you, if you'd like.
P2i2tcan you please tell me what you are running for liver protection? please tell me you are planning on running liver protection in the first place? although it is pretty mild, it should always be run with any oral.
milk thistle
P2i2tAt the least I would run liv 52 alongside your milk thistle. I use liv 52 DS (double strength), alongside my milk thistle. I am currently also running aegis. It is a form of tudca with extra helpfull ingredients as well.it is made pretty much specifically for the purpose of running 17aa orals. I consistently run liv 52DS and milk thistle. I throw in the aegis once I incorporate orals into my cycle like I am using now. at the least you should check out tudca. if you don't know about it already.but I completely agree with jello. Milk thistle alone is not adequate enough. Just my opinion I guess.
AnonThat is not adequate liver protection for any oral steroid imo.
The reason that I chose to go with TBOL was because of it's low sides. I am also predisposed to hair loss and intend to try and keep what i have left so doing a test based cycle was out of the question. I also would like to get a leaner and harder look.
AnonTbol is a testosterone derivative. Achieving a leaner and harder look is defined by your diet and training.
no i completely understand, there is no such a thing as magic pills and that's why my diet and training are on point. i believe i have achieved or near to achieve my natural limits, now i just wanted to experiment and see where i can take my body with an extra boost.
AnonCan you at least explain why you came to this decision and why you think it is a good idea?
I'm not encouraging this cycle at all because I do not agree with oral only cycles. However since you seem like you've made up your mind already , I'd suggest going for 8 weeks and getting the most out of. Maybe even Starting at 60mg and adjust from there. You should extend your research as well on AI's, you should always have it on hand for any cycle.. I'd also reaserch more about PCT, look into nolvadex...
from my understanding for an oral cycle 6-8 weeks is ideal however, more then that i hear is pushing it when it comes to liver health, and that why i choose ~5 weeks for my 1st cycle ever to be on the safe side. Also, i did do a lot reach regarding AI's and pct and since Turinabol is not aromatized at any dose at all, and estrogenic side effects should not be considered a part of Turinabol side effects at all. That's why the pct for this cycle should not be as aggressive as advanced pct for other stronger cycles.
Since your mind is made up and you're at least sensible about how long you'll run it, I wish you all the best with this cycle even though most here won't agree with it.
8 weeks?!? You're advising him to take turinabol for 8 weeks? Am I reading this correctly? Yet you don't agree with oral only cycles?
Yes you can read dude! Congrats....
There are far worse cycles out there than this one. If he has his mind made up already there's no point in sitting here and explaining why not to go through with it.. And honestly tbol for 8 weeks would be
mild... Chill out bro...
Ha. Slow your roll. Funny you don't advise oral only, but you're giving advice on it. Just going by your words. Don't be fkn cute with me.