+ 1 12 week cycle Dbol + Test P + Npp + Test E
Trying to get some opinions on my coming up 12 week cycle cycle. I wanted to cut a bit more before I did, but due to time constraints, i will have to start early AUGUST. I have a few questions, would npp be best running at 8 weeks at 150 or 12 weeks 100? And should I use the rest of my test p as a finisher weeks 13-14 at 100 EOD?
1-6wk- Dbol 60 MG daily split into 3 servings of 20mg
1-4wk- Test P 100 iu EOD
1-12wk-Test E 250 iu twice a week, mon And thurs
1-8wk- NPP 150 EOD
1-14wk- HCG 250 iu twice a week, mon and thurs
1-14wk- ARIMIDEX . 5 MG EOD
? MAYBE? 13-14wk- test p 100 eod
15-17- Clomid and Nolvadex pct ED
Age-34
Height - 5'10
Weight- 230.1 lb
Experience - 1 cycle test E 12 week, 1 cycle Dbol kick, Test E, Hcg, 12 week
Neck- 18"
Waist- 35.5“
Hips-39"
Wrists- 7.5“
Forearms-13"
Biceps-17“
Ankles- 10“
Calves- 16"
Chest- 45"
Glutes- 44"
Quads 27.5
| Week | Testosterone Enanthate | Pregnyl | Nolvadex |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 2 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 3 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 4 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 5 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 6 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 7 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 8 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 9 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 10 | 500mg | 500UI | |
| 11 | 500UI | ||
| 12 | 500UI | ||
| 13 | 500UI | 20mg | |
| 14 | 500UI | 20mg | |
| 15 | 20mg | ||
| 16 | 20mg | ||
| 17 | 20mg |
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Appreciate the insight internet cowboy. Do you have something to offer? I know you do. You wouldn't have 2017 karma if you didnt. I want to pick your brain hence the topic.
Most of my karma is from making people rethink stupid ideas. I don't know what goals you have so me helping you would be useless. Are you a competing powerlifter? Are you trying to stay in a certain weight class? Bodybuilder? Gym enthusiast?
Wow...... Lol. So all of your karma is from saying snide remarks and not having anything positive for a rebuttal? Must be fun trolling people. Powerlifting is support for my bjj and my job . And no I'm not trying to stay a certain weight class, for what I do, weight isn't a issue.
Listen, for once I am trying to be nice but you are purposely making me want to hurt your feelings. I don't troll people, I make people face reality that are only taking aas so they can get big muskells so people stop picking on them or because they think having muscle will magically make women not look at their ugly face. Now do you want to answer my question or do you also fall in the category above?
RustyhookerHe wants a cosign.
Sad state of affairs isn't it?
See he can't answer that as he doesn't know what he is Lol easiest just to say 'powerlifter' as you say. You must of had a good training session today buddy as I've seen you go raving hostile over much nicer comments
Awee you're cute. ;)
A Homo wrestler....'shudder'
Got a lot going on for a 3rd cycle. Pick one or the other, dbol or prop but not both. Forget about the NPP. I would knock another 5% off your BF to really maximize lean gains from this cycle. Just going to get fatter quicker with less muscle gain if you are trying to bulk.
You think it's to much? Is there any reasoning for not using both? I wish I had the time to get lower on bf %, but due to time constraints I won't be able to unless I bring it to shorter cycle. I'm a powerlifter, and wrestler. I was going to use npp for my joint issues, I know this is usually used for a bulking cycle but I heard you could also cut with it as long as you are eating very clean and getting enough rest. Water retention and a little bit of bf aren't huge concerns, yes Aesthetically it won't be to appealling.But I'm also not getting ready for a show. Is the bf gain that much on npp?
You think npp will automatically make you gain bodyfat? You need to do a lot more research, no steroids will make you gain bodyfat unless your in a calorie surplus.
See that's what I was always told, I've never heard that it will just make you fat. Water retention is one thing.... Guess I'll have to look into more research.
What are you are trying to do with cycle? Bulk or cut? Here is why you need to lower that bodyfat if you want to maximize muscle gain and minimize fat gain.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/scientific-proof-lower...
Pretty informative article, thank you. My main goal is to increase my strength and break my plateaus. My secondary goals are losing extra bf, and increasing my overall size. I've been increasing my cardio, to reduce my %. If I use Dbol for a Kickstart, I'll have to reduce my cardio due to the fact my heart feels like it's going to jump out of my chest while on it. But I might just take it out of the cycle in general.
You need to pick a goal and stick with it. You have competing goals here. You want to increase strength and break plateaus, you need to be in calorie surplus and pounding carbs. You want to lose fat you need to be in a cal deficit which will sacrifice strength and gaining lean mass. You want to increase your overall size, then drop the bodyfat first unless you want most of that size to be fat. Steroids can do alot but they can't do all that. Figure out what you want to do otherwise you will be just spinning your wheels trying to do everything and end up right back where you started.
I gotcha. Well my number 1 goal right now is strength, plateau breaking. I had to deload on my presses do to a recent neck and shoulder injury. Slowly but surely getting back to my old wrestling strength.
Pretty simple then. Test e and pulsing adrol. Not going to get any better than that.
Anadrol eh? I might have to look into that. Thank you.
Excuse my lack of knowing how to put everything into my dosage table. Hence the reason why I typed it. If I get more time to play with it, I'll fix it.