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  • chunkypbnj   •   Tue, Sep 23rd, '14 08:46   •   12 replies, 717 views

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  • chunkypbnj
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Why wait till week 8 to start the provi? I agree with rust test/provi/prop taper is a great effective simple cycle. I know your goals are your goals but you're 260lbs at 6ft and you want more? Fuck man just get shredded especially if your goals are better cardio shape and getting learner then why not cut or recomp? I personally would keep cals around maintenance and do alot of cardio like you say you're gonna and eat clean. Youll still add some muscle but youll get alot leaner.

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Does it make much of a difference, Cyp or Sust when leaning out. I like the idea of Sust b/c the short esters will kick in right away. And I decided to wait on the Provi b/c I want to see if I notice any difference including it. I hear so many guys say its awesome and the same number say they did not notice any difference.

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There's a lot of crap proviron out there. I'm betting the guys who used it and said they didn't notice a difference used some ugl crap.

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Went with Swole's. Everyone said nothing but good things.

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Test/provi/taper is a nice easy run. Simple and very effective.

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I am just anxious to run this var! Maybe I will make that decision when the time comes. I'll have to see how lean I am. Want to make sure it's worth it.

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One new compound at a time so you know how you react. I would drop the taper, save that for down the road. If I were to suggest something it would be Test and proviron. That was my last cycle and I loved it. It's simple, but very effective. You will get vascular and dry out I would use either Test E or C not sust. Sust is a tricky compound and takes a more frequent dosing schedule. . If you take proviron then take some saw palmetto along with it.

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I am currently running a Prop taper. I decided I will do this for every cycle I run. It just makes sense to do this, in my opinion. I was not considering Proviron a new compound. I just look at it as something to get the most out of the test I will be taking, but I see your point. The EOD pinning of Sust is not an issue for me. I have no problems sticking myself. I was planning on hitting .7cc EOD if I decide to go this route.

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Taper is fine. Proviron is nice, but still has it's sides if you took it with Var and started getting sides you wouldn't be able to determine which is causing what. Like I said saw palmetto for your prostate. With Provi I noticed a little hair shedding, not much. It stopped when I was done with the cycle. If you are predisposed to MPB, Provi will speed the process up. I'm not balding so it didn't effect that. If I were to take one it would be Provi. Like you said it will unbind the free Test. You will not get any strength gains, but I noticed that the vascularity was crazy, and I was direr than previous cycles. Got some decent pumps also. I had an overall good feeling on it, nothing really bothered me was pretty calm and happy.

You could get away with M-W-F on the Sust, but EOD is fine if you don't mind it. I should keep things stable. Usually it's not a compound for a second cycle because it made up of different esters.

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I believe in maintaining the most stable bloods possible. EOD seems logical. Just set the smartphone to remind me EOD. I did the same thing this cycle, E4D.