I tried PCT and it worked. But after that, I gained 8 kg. I decided then that I would always be on testosterone. I'm afraid to imagine what would happen to me without testosterone.

If you’ve been on for any real amount of time it can be nearly impossible. Told this story a couple times here, but I was shutdown by 21 after a powerlifting coach introduced me to PEDs at 17. Tried multiple meds and over a year consulting with a great endo & urologist. Never got to where I should’ve been, and it wasn’t from a lack of trying. I personally don’t like how clomid or nolvadex makes me feel in the slightest. So I been going steady on script TRT since 22-23. I was obviously far too young and stupid when I began, yet I have been blessed enough to have not run into any major issues even with some cycles that pushed it here and there.

While it is likely to restart some levels of natural production & fertility in most, and some even back to baseline- it often comes with side effects or doesn’t actually get you back to where you want to be.

I find it so much easier physically and mentally to be on a stable dose. I advocate for TRT at 35+ for most of the people I know especially if they’re experiencing symptoms of and have low T. Staying on a dose even at the high end of natural ranges is so low risk for a majority of the population it becomes nearly a no-brainer especially if you’re fitness/health focused and don’t want to go through the PCT cycles.

All a long way of saying no I would never come off of everything unless I absolutely had to due to a health issue or something.

Yes, if it becomes medically necessary to stop I will. I'm not talking out of spec blood markers and other issues we can address, but a Dr telling me to stop or die.

Interesting question buddy and one that I often ask myself.

I think the answer to that question is as long as I want to lift weights and am able to do them - then I'll be on gear. Fact is that when I trained naturally and was still pretty strong, I literally had no size whatsoever and people didn't even think I trained despite lifting more than other guys I knew who were on gear and had 40 pounds on me. Life is SOOO much Fuckin better when you are bigger and stronger in every single aspect apart from it being harder to run down the street - but when do I need to do that??!! LMAO

Yeah its unhealthy for you, but I was more unhealthy when I lived to go out on the town and get pissed or drink at home. I know it will take some years off my life but living for another 10 years and being unhappy now isn't worth it for me. I'd probably think differently however if I had children, I would want to be there for them as long as physically possible and my wife. Of all the people I've spoke to over the years on here who have come totally off gear - ALL of them went back on either soon or a couple of years later as all said they are happier on steroids.

None of us should EVER take training or running gear for granted either - I'd fuckin give anything right now to be able to do some benching like I was doing 3 weeks ago today, instead I know that is months away currently. Makes you realise not to ever do stupid shit in life that can fuck up your training like not wearing a seatbelt, riding like a Dick on a motorbike, dangerous activities etc cos when your entire week revolves around training you sure miss it when its gone

I will probably do this shit until im 65. When i turn 65, i will still be doing steroids, however after 65, i will also be doing hookers and heroin. Fuck turning it down as you get older, ya gotta turn that shit up, im tryina go out like the grandpa in Little Muss Sunshine

Blood in! Blood out! 250-300mg test weekly 25mg proviron a day for life!

In fact, I was completely off for 4 years after ten years of cycles.
I didn't decide, but simply life circumstances brought me there.
Honestly, I felt better psychologically. My weight and appearance reset to my natural lean state of around 75KG. Libido was there (I need help with that more now), my mood was ok. In short, I functioned completely normally and I didn't go back to steroids because I "had to" but because I started going to the gym again and training without steroids is crap.
The way I look at it now, in my later years, IF I experience them, staying on TRT is ok. In short, you don't lose anything because realistically, a bag of chips is more harmful, and there is a possibility that you will gain, if nothing, in one aspect that is important for later years, which is preserving muscle mass, bone density...

I’m almost 50 and on trt 20 years while doing short summer cycles.
My test levels are 98 when I did come off for medical reasons.. I argue with my doctor she says that all humans are supposed to get old and suffer ( break down) that’s life course. I told her if that what she preaches to her own family that we should break up
You’re not going to tell me with all these options in life that we all have to feel old and suffer
I will trt for life staying at the optimum range I want aslong as blood work is good. And hgh will be a part of my life as long as I can hold a slin pin
And small dose of deca cause I beat my ass up in the gym all my life and I deserve to feel less pain

I'm in my early 30s and it's blast and cruise for life for me. I've weighed the benefits and risks and try to do it reasonably safely. The way the world is anymore do I really need to live to be 80? Priorities may change 10 years from now though who knows? At the very least I'll never come off a trt dose.