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Deca Durabolin or NPP Difference?

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For those who have done both Deca and NPP i know the ester half life is different. Are there less side effects from the NPP? As far as results does the NPP give similar or the same results? I am interested to hear actual experience because i am thinking of doing the NPP but if the only difference is pinning more often than it does not make sense for me. Do you start with Deca and end with NPP or go the whole cycle with one or the other. I have done Test only, test primo, test and EQ and finish with Winstrol. i Do not want to go to hardcore so the Test and Deca or NPP was next but i do not know what ester is better or does it matter. Thank you much in advance

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Hello,
I'm a deca lover for 20+ years. Stacked it with a lot of other compounds. Used in shorter cycles (6 weeks, was common in lates 90s) and longer like 5 months with GH and incralex.. Used norma hellas, organon yellow tops. So i guess I m mature enough tell something about this substance.
If you ask me, it's really best compound when it comes to gaining size. More tolerable than Tren E.. Gives you massive size and strength fast... So it's unbeatable in it's own category.

NPP is something new for me comparatively. I always thought it's a kind of fast acting nandrolone and since nandrolone decanoate is good enough, I didn't pay it enough attention it deserves until few years ago. It all started a source here send me few NPP for free few years back. I was in cutting and i usually stay away from nandrolone in cutting since my body is not good with dealing with water retention. I have a good old friend who is coach of multiple IFBB pros advised me to use it every 2-3 days at cutting. And stack it with stanozlol in case needed to deal with water retention.
and WOW.. I can not explain how amazed i was. But i probably injected gallons of deca in more than two decades and this was totally new. The results, i can only compare with good old Tren A.. With less sides. From that time , I used it few times and my new favorite g2g substance. Since I'm older now , i'm not doing massive cycles with contains grams of Test a week.. So for me, NPP does the trick for bulking and cutting.

If you ask me, comparing NPP and ND is no sense... Forget the science, receptors, and receptor binding.. For an athlethe they re totally different substances. They have their own pros and cons. It's hard to beat Nandrolone Decanoate for getting massive sizes but Nandrolone Phenylpropionate's main idea is not this. It's very versatile compound that have some of the strenghts of good old deca. But i place it somewhere between trenbolone acetate, masteron, methanolone acetate.

I'm writing you this because I'm sure there's some other people here who is smart ass like me and thinks it's just another form of deca.

thats's my 2cents ..

AlwaysGottaStiffy's picture

About to come off a test/deca cycle. I'll start a test/NPP cycle in a couple months. I've always loved deca. Gives good gains without much sides. Alot of folks talk about how it fucks with your head but I've never experienced any of that. A little water retention but that's it. Nor19s don't really jack with my emotions or head. Not even Tren.

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wanted's picture

Uou can post a picture of the end of your deca cycle and we can judge the deca/ npp appearance

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76's picture

I feel…. Cleaner, on NPP.
Deca fucks with my head after several weeks.
It’s like tren, Ace and Enanthate are vastly different in user experience for many.

BOVINE's picture

In a large degree, they're the same.

wanted's picture

I disagree. You can tell when your running npp the difference in looks

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GrowMore's picture

I feel there is little between the 2 apart from deca is stronger due to the build up. 750 deca per week on week 16 is like running a gram+ of NPP personally speaking. If I eat rubbish for a few days while on deca I look like a water balloon, NPP is more forgiving in that aspect but if the diet is clean both are pretty much the same in that regards.

I prefer shorter cycles 12-16 weeks but I feel you only really see deca shine on a 16+ week cycle or even a 20 week blast which generally speaking is a long fucking time to be blasting gear.

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wanted's picture

Youve ran a gram of npp ????

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GrowMore's picture

It was an educated guess if you can call it that. I’ve ran 600mg of NPP and 600 deca pisses all over it for physique and strength gains. Your mileage may vary like anything though.

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76's picture

You’ve always done better on deca than I do, I go 11 weeks and I’m an emotional fked up mess. Even with mast in there, I can’t hack it.

GrowMore's picture

I know where you’re coming from mate, I nearly dropped it last blast but I managed to ride it out.

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76's picture

Sent you a fr

JFit253's picture

I find that NPP just gives less water retention when compared with Deca. This short ester version seems to kick in about a week or so sooner than Deca. Overall, I do like NPP but it seems more mild than most. I love Tren and have few problems with the sides so Tren beats NPP if your goal is recomp/cut. If you are trying to bulk, then I would stick to Deca

SRQFitness's picture

For some reason I have barely any sides at all with NPP but with deca the mental sides are unbearable. Depression, jealousy, anger you name it. But with NPP I feel good, good attitude no jealousy. Really strange considering the only difference is the ester.

HeyYoeIte's picture

Oh well looks like it will be NPPI will have Caber on hand better to have than to have never had at all.. My weight fluctuates i will get around to posting a pic, i am a work a progress. Much better than years ago. Always trying to do it in the healthiest way that i can and know. Thanks. I do not know how the posts became personal grudges but kiss make up and be friends. There is not many people or places that can agree to disagree, and agree and or sympathize with you and what happens to be going on in here. Much Luck

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GrowMore's picture

Bro we want to see your diet not for you to run gear !

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GrowMore's picture

I would side with Makwa on this and post up your diet and you’ll receive help which normally you would would pay £40< an hour for.

I will say if you intend to PCT I wouldn’t touch deca with a barge pole due to the half life.

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HeyYoeIte's picture

I hear you, you have to read on, i was asking about personal experiences and gave my answer, no not now for tren, thanks

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Makwa's picture

Any 19-nor is hardcore. I really don't think you are ready for NPP. All these cycles you have ran and only 160lbs at nearly 6ft tall. Put on the brakes for cycling right now and start asking more questions about your diet.

wanted's picture

Test e - npp - mast e
Probably my all around favorite for result cycles

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press1's picture

Two very different compounds to run bud in terms of how you feel on them and results gained. As with any steroid you have to try it for yourself to see how you feel on it - I always say if your experience is unenjoyable or you feel rough there is no point in using it as there is little chance you will stay on it beyond a week. For me NPP is by far the nicest to use, good NPP will make you feel energetic & explosive, increase appetite and stronger. You do get some water weight and size with it but half as much as Deca. I pin it ED but you can get away with EOD - but as with all short esters ED will bring the best results and less hormone peaks and troughs. Deca on the other hand, if brute size and strength is your goal, it is the more effective compound. However I have to wait 5 weeks to see any results from it and it gives me horrendous stomach bloating and discomfort the day after injection despite trying various labs, which makes it difficult to eat comfortably. It doesn't feel good to be on for me and is obv thick to pin so make sure you pin it deep or you will end up with lumps for days. As you are new to cycling I would say go for the NPP but I think you will find you will enjoy it and want to run it again before you try Deca. I have used NPP/Deca mixes in the past so there is always that option too if you want the best of both worlds Yes 3

Greg's picture

READ BELOW THAT"S ADDRESSED TO YOU AS WELL

You both contribute to the site, sometimes a bit more "in your face" as some would like. This bickering tone is changing the mood of the site. I'll admit, sometimes I even get wrapped up in it.

You two obviously have issues between each other so stay in your corners. You're both good guys, both have things to contribute.

Shit, if Rusty could reclaim his old less cynical self, I think the rest of us can as well.

wanted's picture

You dont think you both should post a pic up time& date
I picture you both looking like ramon dino

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wanted's picture

Please dont be that guy that tells me they where once in shape many years ago.
Its fair. You and him BOTH POST recent pictures
Or just end it. You guys have my attention
Lets do IT !!!!!

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wanted's picture

Shred a man of his word. Aweasome job

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DeeMan's picture

Hey Rusty Hooker it's been awhile lol. Wanted to say much respect to you for posting a pic bro while not thinking you know it all or talking down on others simply cause you have alot of Karma. Lol see, guys get all this Karma and think that they are untouchables or better than others lolol. Man at the end of the day, we are all men trying to learn and inform each other, that's all. Lol if you talk the talk, better damn well walk the walk by taking a pic. I will take pic with my upcoming review soon.

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Lol 100% agree bro

wanted's picture

Yeah no pictures tonight im eating a fatty chicken thigh as we speak. Dabm cant they trim these dabm things. Im all for every eroid member taking a posting pictures july 4th

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wanted's picture

I think that would bring eroids back together again. Im in and spread the word.
One big happy but strange family

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press1's picture

You two need to just stop talking to each other.

WE ARE ALL SICK OF THE BOTH OF YOU AND YOUR PUBLIC BICKERING.

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GrowMore's picture

I’ll put a vote for press1 proving his credentials. Nothing against him, in fact I think he’s a decent lad but time to throw up a photo with proof it’s him.

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wanted's picture

Hmmmmm maybe a pose down
Whose your pick. I have mine ????

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