Looks like some of it crashed. It happens in shipping this time of year with the cold temperatures.
I like to use my old lady's hair dryer on crashed gear. I point the hair dryer at the vials until they are warm to the touch but not burning hot. Then I swirl them around and let them sit and cool down some. I repeat this process until all is clear in the vials and then do it 2 more times for good measure. I then wipe down the entire vial with a single use alcohol wipe to make sure they are clean.
I used to use the shallow bowl of hot water method but got tired of vials tipping over and labels peeling. I've never vented vials either I just took my time and didn't get things so hot that they might blow up. I believe venting vials opens the door for contaminants to enter vials.
Yeah the test crashed but that expected since he doesn’t use eo or anything like that. It’s no biggie to me, rather not have eo as it causes me some bad pip for days afterwards. I just nuked a coffee cup with water about 3/4 inch or so then set the vial in it and now clear as water. Pinned smooth and no pip as of yet
Thanks bro. I know some guys say to vent vials when warming crashed gear, however it stands to reason that if things can vent out then things can vent in too. I don't trust venting while warming crashed gear.
I'm a believer that if it needs venting its probably being overheated. Keep the heat lower for a longer period of time and there should be no need for venting. Guys start boiling oils and its really not necessary.
Agreed 100% big guy, I never take unnecessary risks and my kitchen although clean, is certainly not a rated sterile environment. But for the sake of discussion, it has benzyl alcohol, and the physics of positive pressure through thermodynamics would keep the expulsion of air going as opposed to a vacuum right? Keep in mind I've never studied quantum physics lol
It's interesting to think about. I don't know all the variables. I can postulate a possible scenario where contaminates could enter the vial via venting while warming.
Lets say the vial was crimped while the contents were still warm or hot. As the contents of the vial cooled this would create negative pressure in the vial. Upon inserting a needle to vent the vial would react like a vacuum and suck in outside air. If a hair dryer containing who knows what bacteria was blowing on the vial, or steam from unsterilized water in an unsterilized container was present at the time of venting when this vacuum occurs, I believe there would be a chance for contaminants to be sucked into the vial. As the vial warmed and pressure started to expel air through the vent it would not guarantee an expulsion of everything that was sucked into the vial if there was negative pressure in the vial when first vented.
Now this is a quality conversation, I did not consider the packaging while still warm. And we see all to often stoppers that are vacuumed in. Again, I'm going to stay the guy that errs on the side of caution. Great info bro, very legit.
Any updates???? Its been quiet here
I’m enjoying his oils. 2 ccs in delts, quads wherever is painless
In quads? Oh yea ..... Hear his oils are pretty potent too
Thanks for sharing bro
No problem, appreciate you making a zero pip product
That tren had nice color to it. Goodluck cant wait to see the results
I love crashed gear...
Keep us posted. It damn sure isn’t bunk.
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Exactly my thoughts, pinned as soon as I heated it back up and cleared out the crystals. So far zero pip which is why I love gear with no eo
AnonLooks like some of it crashed. It happens in shipping this time of year with the cold temperatures.
I like to use my old lady's hair dryer on crashed gear. I point the hair dryer at the vials until they are warm to the touch but not burning hot. Then I swirl them around and let them sit and cool down some. I repeat this process until all is clear in the vials and then do it 2 more times for good measure. I then wipe down the entire vial with a single use alcohol wipe to make sure they are clean.
I used to use the shallow bowl of hot water method but got tired of vials tipping over and labels peeling. I've never vented vials either I just took my time and didn't get things so hot that they might blow up. I believe venting vials opens the door for contaminants to enter vials.
Yeah the test crashed but that expected since he doesn’t use eo or anything like that. It’s no biggie to me, rather not have eo as it causes me some bad pip for days afterwards. I just nuked a coffee cup with water about 3/4 inch or so then set the vial in it and now clear as water. Pinned smooth and no pip as of yet
AnonUnderstandable bro. The old nuke some water in a coffee cup method works well too.
Awesome advice there .... N yea it may have been due to the climate of his location .... I hope he hears u out !
AnonThanks bro. I know some guys say to vent vials when warming crashed gear, however it stands to reason that if things can vent out then things can vent in too. I don't trust venting while warming crashed gear.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.
PermalinkI'm a believer that if it needs venting its probably being overheated. Keep the heat lower for a longer period of time and there should be no need for venting. Guys start boiling oils and its really not necessary.
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Venting is never needed what so ever imo, heating pad and stove top work best usually doesnt take much to un crash the gear.
Molinin302Agreed 100% big guy, I never take unnecessary risks and my kitchen although clean, is certainly not a rated sterile environment. But for the sake of discussion, it has benzyl alcohol, and the physics of positive pressure through thermodynamics would keep the expulsion of air going as opposed to a vacuum right? Keep in mind I've never studied quantum physics lol
AnonIt's interesting to think about. I don't know all the variables. I can postulate a possible scenario where contaminates could enter the vial via venting while warming.
Lets say the vial was crimped while the contents were still warm or hot. As the contents of the vial cooled this would create negative pressure in the vial. Upon inserting a needle to vent the vial would react like a vacuum and suck in outside air. If a hair dryer containing who knows what bacteria was blowing on the vial, or steam from unsterilized water in an unsterilized container was present at the time of venting when this vacuum occurs, I believe there would be a chance for contaminants to be sucked into the vial. As the vial warmed and pressure started to expel air through the vent it would not guarantee an expulsion of everything that was sucked into the vial if there was negative pressure in the vial when first vented.
Molinin302Now this is a quality conversation, I did not consider the packaging while still warm. And we see all to often stoppers that are vacuumed in. Again, I'm going to stay the guy that errs on the side of caution. Great info bro, very legit.
AnonThank you bro.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.
PermalinkMolinin302Its appreciated.
No homo.