Mild Depression & Can't Orgasim (2 week PCT)
10 week Cycle: EOD
Trenbolone Enanthate 50 mg/ml
Drostanolone Enanthate 100 mg/ml
Testosterone Enanthate 100 mg/ml
T3 nightly.
Bronkaid once daily.
Cabergoline 0.25 mg 1x weekly.
Letrozol 0.625 mg every 4 days.
Pre-workout: C4, creatine, fuck ton of vitamins.
I lost about 15 LB, but gained a bit of muscle. I stopped the cycle as I was getting SUPER moody, and started to see hair-loss. I was a god for awhile, then a moody lethargic bitch.
Post cycle, I waited 8 days before starting 150mg Clomiphene citrate nightly. I stopped everything, except still have taken cabergoline (I'm out now).
Issues:
Focus/Concentration Issues, lack of interest in wife, but have interest in woman. Mild depression in general, and it took nearly 4 hours of sex to cum lately. Zero urge to masturbate.
I did get blood work done, and I'll see from the DR. Tuesday.
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Update:
My bloods have normalized, and mood has reset, sex drive has reset.
I stopped the PCT once I posted here.
Horrible ride, and will try to do a better cycle next time.
Did you extend your pct or you wait to see if your body would reset on it's own?
The same thing happened to me once after an improper PCT! It took a while for my system to reset, but it did eventually! As far as the sexual things in your OP. I remember in the months waiting for my body to reset itself I used Cialis and Viagra occasionally thru that period until I didn’t need it anymore. The body is an amazing mechanism and most often it will correct itself with time!
Update:
My bloods came back
300 test ndl,
4 estradiol
0.3 prolactin
Clomid kills estrogen, right? I have near zero without it.
No, it doesn't.
You crashed it with letro.
You crashed your prl with caber.
Improve you test and free test now. Eventually your body will start to aromatise test to estro. Your prolactin will then follow. Time is your friend.
Try some of these methods: https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/over-40-trt/considering-trt-at-lown...
I agree low Test will eventually mean high prolactin which means nipple growth and limp weener. And you don't want to counter this with caber Just fix IT from the source use clomid for a little bit longer. But IT surprises me how hé was on low dosage Gear and yet crashed so hard and have issues recovering where as I abused steroids ( yes im An idiot don't be like me) and recovered in 3 weeks 700ng Test blood level. Every body is different get to Know your own body guys remember what works for one doesn't mean IT wrks for you.
No it wont
Huh?
I already said why; caber +letro
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Letro is srs stuff. Took it a long time ago when I was using a Prohormone. Got a lump in my nipple area. The type that hurts when it is rubbed against something or even the water in the shower.
Didn't do research and I think I took 1 mg a day for 5 days. Lump completely gone but my body felt flat, weak, and I realized I crashed my estro.
Not sure why people take all of this stuff for estrogen when they don't get bloods first to see if they need it.
One needs estrogen to grow and you don't want to crash it.
I was ignorant back then didn't know about getting bloods and how srs Prohormones were. Since they were OTC supps thought nothing of it.
I don't understand how you lost 15lbs. I would expect a person to lose fat but any weight loss from that would be negated by the muscle mass increase. Since muscle weighs more than fat, you should have gained weight over the course of the cycle. Steroids especially trenbolone increase the body's utilization of the food consumed. Even if you ate less food than you normally would, you would still see an increase in muscle mass. Something is terribly wrong here. You were either on a sever caloric deficient diet or you are having some serious health issues. I'm surprised no one else has brought this up.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding and you lost the weight after you got off cycle. That is still concerning to me. You shouldn't lose that much weight if were doing a proper PCT. One should keep around 80% if they're doing a proper PCT. The biggest thing that concerns me about your cycle is the use of letro. That should only be used when there are signs of gyno. It's far too strong to be used during most cycles. Plus your cycle doesn't have a high estrogen conversion. You need to keep your androgen-to-estrogen ratio balanced. Estrogen isn't bad within normal ranges. The human body produces it for a reason. You can't completely eliminate it and expect to function properly.
I want to know why you choose this cycle. Why were are you messing with T3? Why were you taking caber without showing signs of prolactin? Why were you taking letro without showing signs of gyno? You've never even done trenbolone before so you didn't even know what negative sides if any you would get. I would never recommend your cycle to anyone. I'm completely at lost on what you were thinking. Don't take this as an attack. I just want to see you do cycles safely.
Thank you, please RIP me a new one. I am miserable.
My bloodwork is complete.
I have no prolactin and no estrogen, with hardly any test.
I've been off PCT for 5 days.... I am not sure what to do next.
In terms of weight.
My body changed from a fat piece of shit, to a sexy mother fucker. I did lose a ton of weight, but also transformed like crazy.
I was 36" waist, now I am 31".
I did a horrible calorie deficit, 500 cal to 1200 cals.
Edit:
To answer all of your "why" questions.... I have no answer. I read and read and read, but I didnt understand my cycle, even though I thought I did.
Hcg during cycle and not after as IT suppreses LH.
And stop doing enanthate EOD injections. Next time go for Sustanon die to different kind of esthers less pinning and it's extended with fast and slower esthers combined and less aromatization than longer esthers!! If you take 50MG TEST E EOD you made a mistake imho because the Esther of enanthate weights wat more than Lets say propionate so You're getting way less than 100mg into you!!! Mix that with trenbolone and it's a wonder you are not lactating during the effing cycle if you ask me. My advice go for Sustanon! And if you need An extra kick after the 1-2days of the pin week add test phenylpropionate next after IT! Also add proviron to your stack! Helps with sex drive boner and lowers SHBG which binds to testosterone. By doing so you have more free testosterone which is very beneficiant! Because testosterone levels in blood don't tell much if your SHBG is too high combined with having high test levels is worse than low SHBG with average TEST levels. Proviron works better than Masteron for SHBG in my honest opinion for me it's cheaper!
My 2 cents
No worries mate. We will get you right.
Was estrodial measured in pg/ml? If that is the case you're extremely low. I'm assuming prolactin was measured in pg/ml. Damn these numbers concern me. This is exactly what I was afraid when I read that you were on caber and letro.
Need to get you on an immediate aggressive PCT program. You're going to blast HCG for 3 weeks. You'll start at 4,000iu.
4,000iu day 1 and day 4
3,000iu day 7 and day 10
2,000iu day 13 and day 16
1,000iu day 19 and day 22
Then I'll have you jump on Clomid for 4 weeks for a standard protocol.
100mg everyday for 14 days
50mg everyday for 14 days
I expect your testosterone, estrodial and prolactin to be elevated after this 5 week program. Your body should be producing at the testosterone levels you were at prior to the cycle. Honestly it should be higher than normal but will drop within it's normal range. Final thought is to avoid Nolvadex this time around. Your estrogen is too low,
"I have no prolactin and no estrogen, with hardly any test."
That will make you feel terrible. Hope you can get the numbers back up and learn from this. It will suck but you can fix this. Hope it works out for you.
PcushionI think giardap is spot on. You also have to remember your hormones are not balanced at the moment and some guys it doesn’t bother and others it’s living hell. You gotta give it time.
I like to run my pcts much longer than most. I like the longer taper on my pcts meds.
Best bet is to keep yourself as comfortable and stress free as possible. Get good rest, eat clean and be patient.
Damnit. Lol, I need to be ready to go at least by Saturday. Lol.
After that I can crash for a month and not give a damn.
The mast and letro crashed your estro. Simples.
Some ppl get hit harder by mast than others.
Your body is righting itself, taKes time...
Fuck, mast kills estro?
I thought I was spiking on estro and started Leto.
Shit, so maybe my whole problem is estro is like completely gone? And clomid fucking it more?
How many times have you run tren?
It’s a beast of a drug.
First time, I took only half the recommended. I was crushing it for awhile. Working our 2 hours in the morning, 3 at night, fucking like 6 times a day.
Suddenly, one day... a massive mood swing and major crash out of no where.
I pushed through it for another week... but stopped as I seen hair loss... and MPB isn't in my family.
The hairless stopped after about 2 weeks of ending the cycle... it wasn't major, but noticable, maybe 4x more than what you normally lose in a day.
AnonMast CAN have an effect on estro, for some more than others. It also can cause shedding as it is a dht. I get minimal shedding but a decent effect on my Estrogen. Pretty lucky in that area. But it sounds like you over worked yourself hardcore then possibly tanked your e2 lol. You need a break and to skip the t3 and tren for a long time..
AnonJesus. Test tren mast caber letro t3.. yikes.
Good thing you've got bloods.
I’m not going to lecture you on anything here mate as it sounds like you’re going through hell. Are you 2 weeks post PCT or or you’ve started a 2 week PCT?
Hopefully your bloods show what’s up. If it was me I would preorder some pharmaceutical Clomid, HCG and Nolvadex ready incase you need to do another PCT. I can’t stress the pharma part enough mate, not that UGL stuff isn’t good but you want the best chance you can get to pull yourself out of this place you’ve found yourself. Most of us have been there so we can all empathise.
See what bloods say and go from there. E2 might be high, prolactin could be out of range, caber might have fucked you up or 100’s of different reasons.
I would buy enough gear for
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
There’s a lot of conflicting opinions on HCG usage but I would blast 250iu ed for a week or 2 before or in the first couple of weeks of pct. It was raise oestrogen which can exacerbate so again bloods are important.
This is what I used to do to pct from memory although it’s been a few years, perhaps someone more up to date will add/correct me.
On a side note 150 Clomid would fuck me up, have you taken that dose before? If not I would skip a few days and try 25/50. Clomid is a shitty drug to have to use.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/dangers-in-post-cycle-...
Yes, the recommended dosage (just from research, and the site itself) was 150mg, daily.
I'll try to switch to 50mg.
Bloods come Tuesday, so I will know for sure, or I hope.
I tested for:
Progesterone, Prolactin, Test &free, t3,t4, estrogen.
Hopefully it's one of these. I did a shitty workout today, but blah... my mood is super short and getting angry when I have to repeat myself.
Way too much clomid.
Personally I would be trying to jump off a bridge because my ex from 3 marriages ago wouldnt take me back.
Full psycho on clomid.
I get the having to tell some one a second time I mean fuck cant they listen louder.
I dropped clomid for 24 hours.
I'm going to stay off for about 3 days and see if it helps.
If I make a comeback... I'll switch to 25mg, or 50mg?