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Do random tuff guys instigate you because of your look?

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Recently for some reason ive been getting asked alot if people try to fight me or start shit when im out at a bar or something because of my size and the way i look. I dont go out too much but no this has never happened to me yet. For the most part i get a positive response from people. My dad even asked me this saying you always get some guy who thinks he can or wants to try and kick the biggest guy in the bars ass.

Does this happen to anybody often or ever at all? I just think its weird i been getting this question alot lately so just wondering if its something that commonly happens to others? Luckily so far for me it hasnt happened. I have been told many times i have an intimating presence, not just because of my size but by my look and the way i carry myself.

Pale's picture

Yesterday sadly a lifelong friend and long term employee yesterday did everything he could to try and get me to attack him yesterday. Luckily as angry as I was I could smell a set up a mile away. Needless to say he no longer has a job but I am still pretty bummed out about it regardless.

shawn0712's picture

That's a real shitty feeling. I had a family member that I drug with me through every job I'd had, and to my business. He was with me eleven of the last 13 years since opening my doors. He was the hardest worker I'd ever had. I trained him for it from the beginning, and I paid him accordingly. I also gave him too many chances as well. He went through a divorce and started screwing up. I thought he had a drinking problem, it ended up being a heroin problem.
it didn't end well. He tried reaching out to the guys and turning them against me. Another one lost a job in the end feeling entitled.
2 years later, and we went from being like brothers to strangers. I hope your situation ends up better, and you guys remain friends after some cool off time.

DfromPhilly's picture

That fuckin sucks man. They always say don't mix personal with professional, but it's so tough. Especially if someone wants a job... You're either a dick for not hiring them, or you're a dick however many years later for being their "boss". Luckily no one of my family or friends is in the same business as I am. I don't know what I'd do or how i'd handle it.

Sorry to hear that, boss. At least you kept your cool. That's literally the only plus to that story.

Pale's picture

Trust me, I preach to anyone that will listen to not hire friends or family. It will complicate every decision you have to make. But for me this "decision" goes back over twenty years. A little late.

giardap's picture

I 2nd that, big time.
I hired my Mrs's friend, lovely fella and had some great fun working together.
He ended up being a sick-day/all talk no action/self-righteous know it all that pretty much refused to do any of the requirements of his job. Cost me a fortune to get rid of him and almost sunk my business.

Im sorry to hear you lost a friend though, thats tough.
2 things that dont mix with friends... being their employer and lending real money. My grandmother used to say; never a borrower nor a lender be. Never more true then with friends.

DfromPhilly's picture

yikes. yea, but you know what? If it's the type of person that would react that way now, if you didn't give him a job it prolly woulda happened 20 years ago for not hooking him up. Just a shitty, probably unavoidable situation (of course I say this knowing NOTHING about the situation lol).

No matter what it is, it sucks and I feel for ya. The only guys I'm really close with are guys that i've known since I was 10 or so. It would suck for something to blow up like that with any of em.

Pale's picture

Funny you mention 10, that was when we met. I have no doubt the friendship will be damaged for awhile but I also think maybe the friendship will survive. That may just be me being overly optimistic tho.

Ozninjaguy's picture

For me, friendships are relationships - and relationships are based upon trust and respect - once the trust/respect is broken, so is the relationship. I hope you can resolve your differences with your friend - but my personal experience has been that the previous issue/s, while not spoken about, always linger in the back ground. I have found it better to just move on and keep an amicable but not close connection - until that eventually fades.

giardap's picture

Just a thought... you made me remember something... What you say is true but there are exceptions
One of my best friends is almost completely unreliable - the sort that would leave you at the bar ordering his pint, waiting for him to arrive at the scheduled time and just not show up. He is also a compulsive liar, lol

Used drive me nuts, to the point I wanted to not be mates anymore. However, I decided, thats just how he is and adjusted my expectations accordingly. Since then, no frustrations, dont dwell on his fkups and we are still best buddies.

sometimes its about what is in our own heads... ya know?

Ozninjaguy's picture

Yes - I know what you mean. I guess that I was talking about the 'important' things that effect a friendship. We all have to make concessions for other people. Your tardy friend might have seen your punctuality as a annoying/frustrating. A guy here (who recently died) was a prolific liar - I couldn't stand him and avoided him when possible - but for some reason he thought that I was his friend and always sought me out. I was never rude to him, just didn't like him much. But, once I put the bullshit part of him aside - he turned out to be a pretty decent guy. I actually miss our conversations.

kodiakGRRL's picture

agree... ... your own personal expectations for how something should be as opposed to how it is are what get people pissed off.. you can either accept them as they are, be angry about it, or walk away

giardap's picture

Absolutely. There is a whole industry growing around this headspace/wellness way of voewing the world. Its fluffy but its more real than whats going on inside our heads sonetimes lol

DfromPhilly's picture

Well you're like 64 years older than me so you've known your buddy a lot longer than I've known mine ;) If it's anything like my buddies, it may take a year or two, but it'll come around. I had two friends that couldn't be at the same place or all hell would break loose for 4 years, and they're good now like nothing happened.

kodiakGRRL's picture

that either makes a Pale a really old mother fucker or that puts you in grade school....

The Impastable's picture

I believe it's already been well established that pale is an old mother fucker. He's probably using a Jerry rigged typewriter and tube telly with an antenna to access the world wide internets.

DfromPhilly's picture

Well I'm 33 so the math isn't looking good for him lol

Pale's picture

You added an extra 20 years somewhere. lol

DfromPhilly's picture

Lol

robb's picture

Fortunately I've never been randomly challenged, to many cctv cameras in the UK, even if you find yourself having to defend yourself there's still the potential to be arrested, fuck jail at my age.

Used to fight for fun at school tho, genuinely loved it lol. Not picking on pussies either, I'd more than likely target bullies. My younger brother was at the same school so I had to watch his back.

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fusebox's picture

I don't really go out anywhere that I don't know well. But one time prior to juicing I got jumped by a little fucker. I was talking to a gal that I knew since high school and apparently he had plans on taking her home. Woke up getting drug out of the bar. Fucker sucker punched me from behind. Worse part was two suppos d buddies warched it happen didn't do anything about it and they stayed in the bar for like an hour longer while I was in the parking lot waiting. Needless to say I don't associate with those dumbfucks anymore

fusebox's picture

I've only got one person on this Earth that I know would have my back no matter what that aren't family. I've cut every tie to my prior dumbass life. One of the dumbfucks tried to contact me last year. I flat out said if I ever see your face anywhere near me or my family again he's dead.

shawn0712's picture

Wait..... your wives all let you guys go outside?

The Impastable's picture

How else are you supposed to spend time with your girlfriend?

Greg's picture

apparently, only to get an ass kicking...

DSTER's picture

I mind my own business, other people just aren't even a thought. I really just don't have any time for them, literally. If they want to punch my face I would have to find a way to schedule it in some how.

giardap's picture

Not so much any more,grown up with kids and less time out in pubs/clubs etc.

But in the old days, yeah saw way more violence than the average joe. Survived a murder attempt (unprovoked) god knows how many assaults and fights. Never actually started a fight in my life, but PTSD from the murder attempt left me a hyper-vigilant lunatic for years, always watching out for an attack, which ultimately leads you into confrontation. My reactions are extremely violent. Once after a night in the club I was attacked by two fellas, blindside/sucker punched/jumped from behind for no reason whatsoever, 100% completely random, but they didn't drop me and years of fight training helped me turn and clinch one. I bit a chunk out of him and he ended up hit by a car, and then smacked the other lad silly. They got a couple of digs in, but as we were at the door of a shop I grabbed a can of deodorant, used it as a flame thrower and tried to set them on fire, burned one of them (got his hair). They ran and jumped in a cab to get away with me trying to pull one of them out.

Few days later I went to counselling to deal with anger/rage etc. and long story short I haven't allowed myself into a situation where I can boil over again. Still doesn't stop people looking you up and down and throwing imaginary-lat shapes at you every day!

DfromPhilly's picture

holy shit dude. Are you the UK's own, Jason Statham? Please tell me you were wearing a suit.

He got hit by a car and kept coming at you? Must have been on drugs or something. Most people would tap out after being struck by a vehicle I'd think. I can only imagine his girl the next day...

Oh my god what happened to you last night, Jimmy?... "Well, I tried to mug a guy with my friend... but he bit me, threw me into on coming traffic, then set my hair on fire." lol

giardap's picture

LOL!!!!!! nah not quite!!

Yeah I'd say they were coke heads, full of ego, wind and shite. 2 of them jumped me from behind, one tried to trip me and the other just threw digs. I almost went down but not quite, manged to turn and lock my jaws on to one of them! he's the one that got clipped by the car (sounds more dramatic than it was in reality, but it gave him a nice enough of a shock to allow me to generate some space), then i turned to his buddy - the buddy wasn't able to do any real damage while i was taking a lump from his friendo, but yeah yeah lol I'd say there was a smell of singed wig in the taxi alright!

Actually the only time i really came close to being knocked out, despite years of training and competing was during another unprovoked late night post-beers fight, in a fast food (the shame, the shame) restaurant when a pregnant chick blind-sided me!!! - No I wasnt fighting her, but she didnt like what happened to her fella and almost knocked me clean out!!!!! I quite literally saw stars! Had to ko her fella a 2nd time then when he jumped on me again.
Women.... they really are not to be messed with!

As for Jimmy Statham... part man, part myth, all legend!

JARHEAD2's picture

Stop whining wuss... Motrin & water fixes anything & everything!! Ooh Rah

JARHEAD2's picture

Bahahaha.... I had mine cut out on a Thursday so I could have a four day weekend. I drove straight from the office to my girls house 6 hrs away. She said I shouldn't have drove on the pain meds.... I laughed & said the Motrin didn't affect my driving at all!! Lol

DfromPhilly's picture

God damn. I'm a bitch. I had all 4 pulled and the one in front of each (all 4 broke the tooth in front of them) and they put me under. I woke up from anesthesia with the nurse and my girl in the room and I supposedly tried to fuck the nurse. Not like physically, but I tried to talk her into it. According to my fiancé anyways, I don't remember shit. All I remember was thinking I had a hot nurse. Then I was driven home like a child.

JARHEAD2's picture

LOL... at least you had more fun!!

DfromPhilly's picture

And it's got me to quit smoking cuz I was afraid of dry socket lol win win

giardap's picture

Ouch goddamnit. Bunch of fkrs. Its a horrible feeling rocking about knowing anyone could be the person that did it. A goddamn padlock, ouch.

Ill tell you though, on one hand not knowing is horrific but equally; on the other is knowing and not being able to do anything about it

giardap's picture

LOL I actually have a mental image of a tattooed looper out cold, with his little lady standing over him watching looney toons fly around his head!!!

giardap's picture

Here's your brother lol
mine soeaks with a forked tongue, but we wouldnt be without them eh? !!!

lol

DfromPhilly's picture

lol yea women can surprise us, that's for sure.

giardap's picture

I should say, it's not a boast, being honest it actually made me realize something really bad was going to happen eventually, either to me or someone else

Too many times you see bullshido brawls end with one fella's head clattering off the concrete and thats what kills him, rather than a punch per sé... end result is still the same and it's sad because more often than not death isn't part of anyone's plan (apart from the psycho's out there)

DfromPhilly's picture

Yea I hear ya. It's crazy how many peoples lives can be ruined by a one "pedestrian" fight that ends up going sideways unintentionally. My buddy's pop (small skinny quite super nice dude) was killed at his nieces wedding like that. Fight broke out, he stepped in to try to break it up, one of the guys he was trying to stop from fighting hit him and he hit his head on the floor... died a few hours later... fuckin god damn shame. That was one of the things that helped wake me up to the fact that I needed to grow up and quit the bullshit.

giardap's picture

Ah god,thats awful

I just feel sorry for everyone involved in that situation. Its horrible.

Yeah likewise dude. Its easy to keep being a twit, hard work to keep the head down, but it is very much so worth it. My kids and my Mrs. keep me grounded now and its good. Life can be very good like that, really is what you make it fr the most part.

popeboy1's picture

I pay little attention to people any more, I hate to say it but most people these days are ass holes. I was a rowdy kid growing up, I stayed in fights thru middle school and high school. I grew up in a small town where everyone knew everyone and there wasn't allot to do except climb the popularity ladder and most of the time you would have to beat someone's ass to get there. These days I don't like confrontation, I'm 37 with 5 boys, I just feel like I've got better things to do than be out looking for a fight. Most people think because I don't want to fight means that I won't lol. They are in for a treat if they push to far. But yeah I have seen guys testing other guys because of their size. I'm not saying that size makes you a win fights, hell up until 2011 I was 127 lbs and I've won more than I've lost, but if one of these guys was to ever land a solid punch on one of those ass holes that are wanting to pick a fight then the ball games over