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-2 IS THIS BULK/CUTTING CYCLE LEGIT? (FEEDBACK NEEDED)

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I ve been working out for 8 years now, and been on steroids the last 3 years on and off, wanted to prep for a show in October, and my cycle is going to be like this :

Steroid Cycle:
1-4 dbol 30mg ED
1-16 test p 150mg EOD
6-16 tren a 100mg EOD
10-16 winstrol 50mg ED
14-16 halo 10mg ED
1-16 arimidex 0.5 EOD
HCG 500ui 2 times a week in mid cycle
liv52 (for liver support)

PCT :
Clomid : 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex : 40/40/20/20/20/20

What do you think guys about this guys, need your feedbacks please Biggrin

Deepsalon's picture

I understand your point, you are right, but as i have mentioned that i want to do a mini bulk not an official bulk, and focus only on bulking the first 4 weeks, then switch to cutting for the next 12 weeks i do not wanna do cutting and bulking at the SAME time, they will be happenning separately, please would you teach me and show me what should make my cycle better? which compounds to add in which ones to remove? and yes i am a men's physique competitor

Emperort's picture

Liv52 isn't enough... You're gonna get some serious trouble with your liver. What's your age?

Deepsalon's picture

I am 28 years old, it is not enough? what do you suggest more?

Emperort's picture

That cycle is too heavy for your liver, with your age maybe you can recover your hpta with a proper pct but that's too much stress on your liver. I would remove an oral at least...

Deepsalon's picture

i understand, but the dosages is low and i will be running a liverguard of course, my dosage is not that high i suppose

MedDx's picture

Damn what a way waste of money...lol

Post cycle history.

Post up an unidentifiable pic.

Post your cal/mac plan and lifting regimens...

Diet over drugs...

Pick one...bulk or cut...then be smart about how you do it...

Recovery will be a challenge...watch and see...glad you're here....maybe we can get you on a safer path regarding AAS use....

Deepsalon's picture

here is my pic after my last cycle https://www.sendspace.com/file/fue31s

Deepsalon's picture

MedDx, first of all, i get the gear for free (my gym sponsors me)

what is wrong with PCT?

mini bulk : 1-4, 250p 500c 70f(3600+) clean food, my weight is 185lbs now.
cutting phase : 4-16, 300p 250c 70f carbs will get down it depends on my weight and how i am looking.

why recovery will be a challenge? i do not get it, you say something and do not explain your opinion so I can get your point, I am very glad to be around you guys, to get improvements and more knowledge from more experienced guys like you.

Christophany's picture

You're 6' tall and only weigh 185 lbs.? And you have the audacity to propose running a fucking bat shit crazy cycle like this? You're out of your mind! I hope you kill yourself, dumb fuck!

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MedDx's picture

Whether the gear is free, or not, it's being used incorrectly for your goals and what your realistic expectations are regarding a competition. Someone's ignorance is showing...is it yours, or is it someone else's? No DA and you wanna run fkn tren a...WTF? Come on, bro.... :/

3 years experience with AAS and you're still not with the program...and you are in body building? Really?

I never said anything was wrong with your PCT...your recovery will be a challenge because of the suppression of hpta with the hellacious concoction of hormones in your plan as well as the length of time running them.

Honestly, when was the last time you had bloodwork done?

Christophany's picture

Damn straight!

+1

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Deepsalon's picture

Why not run tren A? this is my 5rth cycle and first experience with tren A, i did not run it in my first cycle though, this is my 5TH!

what is wrong with my cycle? would you make things clear for me please? i am willing to learn of course.

i am blessed enough, i always feel that with every cycle, my balls does not shrink, and i do recover on a faster rate than normal people do(compared to people who done the same cycles as i did in our team) when we finished pct and did blood work, i got better blood work everytime, and i feel well always after a pct,

1month ago i did my last bloodwork, it was after pct of my last cycle, everything is on point, LH and FSH levels are fresh and red to go.

MedDx's picture

You're a lying sack of shit and you can fuck off....5 cycles in 3 years is bullshit and considered steroid abuse. Not enough fuckin time for the body to recover...and stupid at that for taxing the body like that....

Get the fuck outta here...STUPID ASS

Deepsalon's picture

MedDx i got no respect for you bro, i am an active bodybuilder which means i do compete in every season, i do smalll cycles and recover in between always, and my body recovers best prove is my bloodwork on point every time, what is wrong with you guys? why you are raging over me like this? are you retarded?

MedDx's picture

No problem! The longer you're here, you'll learn to develop that level of respect for loyalty to Eroids. Smile

In the Eroid community we practice AAS use from a safety conscious perspective...always have..always will...

Dive into the community....read the yellow stickies and use the search function. Learn, learn, learn!

Regurgitate what you learn via positive informative posts and be a productive member.

Be all you can be...glad you're here.. Smile

Deepsalon's picture

If i did not trust Eroids, i would not be here in the first place, i know where i put my head into.
And i am willing to learn more and know more always, i will try my best, thanks for this post and for the constructions!

MedDx's picture

You're welcome...

TheFlash85's picture

Nice bro.

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MedDx's picture

Thanks, bro.... Smile hopefully Bulkdaddy will have a change of heart and have better, more positive, contributions to the community....

Emperort's picture

About pct, considering the amount of gear he want to use, do you think that pct should change? In length or dosages. (I'm a fan of long pct with low dosages)

MedDx's picture

His cycle is wrong to begin with....and no I wouldn't run a PCT like he posted if I had a client that insisted on wanting to run this stack, so I'd have to change it...

Deepsalon's picture

really sir? do you think you are helping me and others by commenting this kind of commentaries? i am here to get help from experienced people like you, and not get trolled by people like you, am i wrong?

MedDx's picture

I'LL HELP YOU....HERE'S A NEGATIVE 2 FOR BEING STUPID...GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE...STUPID ASS

MedDx's picture

Me too...can I getta what what... Smile

The old proverbial Eroid saying....blue magnifying glass up top...use it...prolly great advice for OP...

Emperort's picture

Recovery will be very hard, and I don't like that pct

Deepsalon's picture

Why it will be very hard, i do not get it? what do you do not like about it?

Emperort's picture

Then you haven't mentioned any dopamine agonist, do you plan to use them only if Bloods show high Prolactin?

Deepsalon's picture

i forgot to mention that i will have caber 0.25 E3D the entire time i will be running tren and if estrogen is controlled well anyway the prolactin wont be a problem of course

Emperort's picture

1 I don't like nolva, I would use a more recent serm
2 I don't like using Clomid at 100 mg, even for 2 weeks
3 I would use Clomid for 6 wks at 50 mg
With the pct you have written it's very difficult to recovery... Your cycle is long and you're using a 19nor and high dosages of gear in general, you have 3 years of aas use, in general the more you use the more is difficult to recovery (then I don't know your previous cycle and how you did things so I can only approximate my thoughts).

chilukes77's picture

Why halo for 2 weeks??

Deepsalon's picture

to get the last hardening aesthetic look to my body, it will be much leaner at that step

PPGfreak's picture

8 weeks of Winstrol is a lot bro....

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Deepsalon's picture

winstrol was for 6 weeks only, where you saw 8?

PPGfreak's picture

My mistake, it's 7 weeks
Weeks:
1. 10
2. 11
3. 12
4. 13
5. 14
6. 15
7. 16

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Deepsalon's picture

sir, i will be running winstrol by the last of the 10th, not the 10th week, and its 6 weeks only

Jameshobbis's picture

That's alot of pinning using test P for 16 weeks! Personally I don't like feeling like a pin cushion.id swap the test P for test e but I think that's the only change I'd make. Good luck my friend!

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Deepsalon's picture

I have to bulk for 4weeks only, i do need just some 5lbs to gain, 4 weeks will be enough to do it, test p is my favorite, i use insulin syringes for injection, i dont even feel anything.

Drock_357's picture

In 4 wks you won't gain 5 lbs of keepable muscle since you r going to cut starting wk5...that will be the FIRST thing to melt off!...makwa has already told you about chasing the two squirrels, I suggest you think about that a little deeper before you proceed....

stairmaster's picture

MY advice:
.) test dosage is very low
.) tren better 50ED as 100EOD
.) for what halo in week 14 - 16
.) 4 weeks 20 nolva should be enough