+ 2 Need advice on current cycle (ALL OPINIONS WELCOME)
I am currently starting a cycle which will provide good lean gains and minimum side effects. I plan to run this cycle for a minimum of 20 weeks maybe more. I have a few questions for some of the vets and any other member who would like to help.
I am using the following currently:
Primo @ 800mg weekly
Test E @ 250mg weekly
Proviron @ 50mg Daily
Anavar @ 50mg Daily
HGH @ 5IU Daily
HCG @ 500IU 2x Weekly
Aromasin @ 6.25mg Daily
Raloxifene @ 60mg Daily
My questions would be the following:
Is HCG 500IU 2x weekly too high to run throughout this cycle? Should I drop to 250IU 2x weekly instead?
Is Aromasin necessary at all while only on Test E 250mg weekly or would Proviron 50mg daily cover all estrogen related issues?
If Aromasin is ok while using Proviron 50mg daily at this cruise dose of Test E, is 6.25mg of Aromasin daily fine to start with before getting bloods to confirm or is it overkill in your opinion?
Is the Proviron dosage of 50mg daily fine with this dose of Test or should I drop to 25mg daily?
Would it be more beneficial in this cycle to drop the Proviron 50mg and continue the Anavar 50mg daily instead? How long could you safely run Anavar at 50mg daily?
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How long were you planning on running the var for? Front end or tail end?
I know that when I run 250mg of test (which I ran with 800mg of primo) I didn't need any AI. Based off of your other cycles you should be able to get a good idea if you will need it or not.
One suggestion I have is to drop the var altogether and run oral primo for the first 6 wks. Primo takes a long time to get going so supplementing with oral primo is the way to go here. Much easier on the liver also.
As far as the HCG, forget about until PCT and then blast it if you really feel the need for it.
Also, what is the deal with the ralox? Do you have some gyno issues?
I will drop var.
I think I might drop Aromasin and keep Proviron at 50mg just incase as I have been feeling lethargic lately and have also been having minor cases of hot flashes here and there. I might drop HCG or definitely lower it to 250IU twice a week to avoid estrogen related issues.
The Raloxifine I've read it is supposed to have a positive effect on lipids and I am paranoid to the max about gyno and I believe I have a small case of gyno from puberty and am afraid to aggravate it. From what I've read nothing is better than Raloxifene for gyno and it seems like a win win to me.
I will be getting bloods in 4 weeks.
Thanks for the advice guys!
RustyhookerI wouldn't run hug. If you pct do the blast method written by Llewellyn PhD.
No aro. Alex if needed. Bloods week 5 will tell. Aro will crash you.
Provi alone at 25 might be all you need for estro and freeing up test. Again, bloods will tell.
Anavar...where in cycle? I prefer last 6 weeks. It kills my appetite, strength gains and pumps
I will drop var.
I think I might drop Aromasin and keep Proviron at 50mg just incase as I have been feeling lethargic lately and have also been having minor cases of hot flashes here and there. I might drop HCG or definitely lower it to 250IU twice a week to avoid estrogen related issues.
The Raloxifine I've read it is supposed to have a positive effect on lipids and I am paranoid to the max about gyno and I believe I have a small case of gyno from puberty and am afraid to aggravate it. From what I've read nothing is better than Raloxifene for gyno and it seems like a win win to me.
I will be getting bloods in 4 weeks.
Thanks for the advice guys!
I believe you know what you're doing. So, I will attempt to answer your questions:
1) decrease HCG to 250iu x2/ week. And start it at the 10th week.
2) I would stick with Provi 25mg ed, then monitor for S & Sx of elevated estro and keep your AI ready.
3) 6.25mg is a good starting point.
4) I would run 25mg starting off beginning week 3-4, then increase...maybe to 50...depends on BW.
5) Do you have to use the var?
You said you have run a lot of cycles so in that time you must have learnt roughly where your tolerance lies with test before you get gyno symptoms?
With regards to your actual estrogen levels it depends on whether you want to keep your estrogen within the normal range throughout the cycle or just keep it low enough to prevent gyno? If you want to keep it in the normal range you will need to get bloods done to find the right dose of AI otherwise you're just guessing. If you just want only to prevent gyno then you have a much larger margin and you should be able to estimate a starting dose (if any) of AI based on your previous response to test. From that point on you can decrease or increase based on your gyno symptoms (or lack off).
At 250mg a week test I doubt gyno will be a problem but it may well elevate your estrogen above the normal levels, so it really depends on your goal.
StatsAge: 25Height: 5'2"Weight: 175bsBF:
First thing is we need a cycle history and you need to complete your stats...please and thanks
I do not know my exact body fat but it is less than 10% more towards 6 - 7%.
I have been cycling on and off since I was 18 (I know it was dumb to start at that age but what is done is done). The last time I got blood work done was about 4 months ago and showed everything was fine except lipids which are usually a bit off. I have used many different compounds in my cycles as I have competed as well.
What about your weight? Are you heavier, or lighter? And, the lipids four months ago are still a bit off if you havent corrected them and gotten any fresh BW, brother...Do you mind posting an unidentifiable pic? I would like to confirm the 6-7% BF.
Remember your calories and macros dictates your goal, not the drugs....this is going to make a difference when other members weigh in...
Are you doing PCT? If so, we need to see that plan, too. If you want the help, you have to comply, bro..
I am currently at about 175lbs. I fluctuate between 172lbs and 178lbs.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/temp-picture-for-cycle-advice-only-flexing-q...
The above is a link to a picture taken just now. No pump and only flexing abs and quads. It is also time for a meal so I am a bit flat there as well. Pay no attention to the quad that is a tad bit less defined as I pinned there yesterday.
Great physique Zeus, true to your name
I feel humbled!
Thanks my dude. I just added some new ones with a pump going on lol
Good looking pic bro.
Thanks bro check out the new ones I just added with a pump going on after my back workout today.
If they were all 175 and looked like that Gear Head would be flippin' his lid wouldn't he...
Bro, at 5' 2" at 175, the OP has plenty of muscle on. My rant on this subject was for guys at least my height or taller.
C'mon bro, please cut me some slack LOL
:)..Lol...I was wondering where you were...yes I know what you mean...:) I will cut you some slack...
Check out the new pics I added pumped up after todays back workout. I actually weighed 171.5lbs post workout as well.
Very nice bro.
Real nice lines and vacularity....keep up the great work....the delts striations are chisled..
If they were all shorter guys. 5'5 and around there at 12%bf and under is a big dude. Keep in mind he's 5'2.
It's true...
I like to call us short guys giant killers.
I've seen smaller profile BB'S win against larger profiles.....
Nice pic. Well developed muscular structure with a significant amount of balance.