posted Sat, 07/09/2016 - 19:42
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Hey all,
I'm looking for clarification about conflicting information I've read online as it relates to natural testosterone boosters (ntb) and estrogen. Can ntbs have the side effect of increasing estrogen? I'm wondering about estrogen levels both during and after discontinuation of ntbs. I've seen some ntbs marketed as anti-estrogens, and I would never had made the connection if I didn't read about it.
What I'm really getting at is avoiding gyno. I've decided for sure to take hgh (4iu a day) to recover from a non-athletic injury. I know hgh increases estrogen levels, and so I want to make sure my usage of ntbs isn't further increasing my likelihood of gyno.
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I don't think gh increases estrogen production. But increased levels of estrogen do stimulate gh production
It all depends on the individual. Anytime test is increased as Im sure you know estro is bound to go up. Some aromatise different than others. I myself off cycle do small clomid dose runs for 1 1/2 - 2 months which brings my natty test from 600ish to 1500+ yet my estro always remains very low not much more than being off everything. People laugh at my "clomid cycles" but I chuckle internally since my gains are impressive and remain since I never truly get shut down but test drops to 300ish after discontinuing for maybe a month and its almost back to normal. Wish I had more input but I never used ntbs =/
You ever get your psa checked with your blood work during clomid cycles?
I haven't but need to ASAP because of this prostitis that I cant seem to get rid of. Been on every anti infl and antibio for 2 years and it still wont go away. It came up 1/2 year after my last sust cycle 3-4 years ago. What do you think would cause prostate problems months and months after a cycle was stopped? dht?
You ever had a culture and sensitivity done on your semen sample? For the last 14 yrs, I have researched books, medical journals, the Internet and spoke with physicians regarding STD's and STI's. Escherichia Coli has many mutations, and some antibx's only work to a point, or the regimen isn't long enough, or intravenous infusion of antibx's is needed to reach peak plasma levels when compared to oral administration. Then there is Candida Albicans and all its lovely glory that can pose so many problems.
Bactrim DS was one drug that showed evidence of helping prostatitis in the late 70's, but not curing it, it was a drug that men were taking for several years on a daily basis. The seminal vesicles sit behind the prostate. They are about 3 inches long an 1.5 in wide. The anatomy is so close inside the the body, too. You couple that with inflammation and an infection that goes undiagnosed secondary to "back pain" and in time it doesn't take long for tracts to develop, where the microorganism begins to travel. It's not uncommon for an undiagnosed normal flora organism to invade the synovial fluid in the hip joint via tracts. Now, this may not be your issue, but persistent infections that don't go away, could possibly be masked by our own immune system, while they continue to slowly invade our body.
I'm not sure, but clomid can affect the prostate. Only way to see what's up is full panel blood work
And you are right, Clomid has caused epidydimitis in me about 6 months after post cycle therapy. I used doxycycline 100mg every day for 30 days, and it helped alleviate the back pain and epidydimitis. Research shows that 200mg is effective as well, prior to IV infusion. 100mg is a good starting point.
In some cases, protected sex with sex partner(s) and lengthy medication regimens that match a gram stain and C & S for the organism(s) is a course of treatment that is an option. CT scans help too, when radiography just show white hazy images.
Awesome info bro
Some of this shit is over my head lol
It's been a couple yrs since I've delved into the books, and after finding out what worked for me, I slacked off. But, mutations of bacteria, viruses, fungi, etc. continue on a daily basis. I just protect myself cuz I know what causes my symptoms and have Rx meds on hand in case I get a flare up. There may be newer technologically advanced methods and drugs now.
Very cool info bro, I wish I had more time to research this stuff but with my job my schedule is unpredictable
Yo comprendo, hermano...
There is one other bacteria too that is normal flora in the female genital tract. It's called Ureaplasma Urealyticum. STDs from UU originated from Asia, and it can go undiagnosed. Chlamydia is another one everyone knows about, but it's obvious when the male gets it, UU isnt. Males may get a drip (urethritis) with a stain in the underwear, but the the drip goes away because the body creates an antigen-antibody complex.
Plz accept my fr
Gotcha bro
It's funny you bring that up because I think clomid is the cause of my current prostate issues.
Read above this post to my other reply. ^ It might man but I never ran into problems before with my prostate and clomid even after a couple cycles using clomid pct. I have been diagnosed with prostitis for years now and nothing will clear it up after a sust cycle years and years ago and I used nolva and hcg only for that particular pct. This prostate problem only came up(that I noticed myself) after this last cycle which has kept me from cycling since. Please accept my FR bud
Its entirely possible