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First ever pin last night, experienced some PIP today

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Hey All,

I started my first cycle last night, took a 1.5" 23g needle in my right glute. I was able to go to bed fine, today however I am experiencing some discomfort in my cheek, it feels like someone kicked me very hard in the ass with their cleats. I massaged a bit, but the area under the bandaid feels a bit harder than normal.

Is this expected ?

Next time I was thinking of either getting a 25-26g needle, and maybe warming the oil up. Needless to say today is my off day, but I hope this goes away fast. Took some Ibuprofen for now.

Thoughts ?

lofter86's picture

There it goes, Test Flu hit me this evening. 101.7 temperature, lethargic, body aches, tired, eyes feel heavy

Been reading most of the evening about it. Took Ibuprofen, tons of vitamin C, drinking water. Sweating like a mofo right now. Hopefully it will go away by next week so I can train without interruption.

Going to sleep, not panicking but I figured I'll post here to record my experience/journey and for others to read who are starting out as well.

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Did my second shot last night. This time no GF assistance, solo'd it. 25g 1.5", drew the Test E, switched pins, warmed up syringe using a blowdryer on hot air for 1 minute, syringe was warm. Injected over about 35 seconds little by little.

I do feel some discomfort today in my left cheek, however its nowhere as bad as the first one when my GF did it. The Tuesday shot my ass is still warm/red/lump. Hope it goes away soon.

ryaroberts's picture

Go on ebay and buy some filtered grapeseed oil to cut the concentration of the gear. Try 1cc of test and .5 cc of filtered grapeseed in your syringe and that should help.

lofter86's picture

By the way, the gear I am using is from CENSORED before his beg mess.....

Test E 300 - 10ml vials, Aromasin, Clomid/Nolva are all by CENSORED brand.

tonytulo's picture

read the fucking rules! No source talk in the forums.

Eagles 2013's picture

I know tuner source has been out of the game for quite a while, but you still aren't supposed to name sources in open forum. Just lookin out! I wouldn't sweat tune pip unless the area turns red, starts to swell, feels warm to the touch and/or you start running a fever. If so, you may be looking at an infection. Pip is very common with virgin muscle tissue though so I think you are good to go.

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lofter86's picture

Hey thanks, taking Ibuprofen has helped out a lot. The area is slightly red, and warm to the touch. No fever, but it does feel like a lump is there. I used 2 needles to draw/inject everything was sterilized...

lofter86's picture

Hey guys, would anyone here mind if I sent them or posted a photo here of my glutes for better visualization of whats going on ? I am not sure if I am nervous therefore my temperature increased / psyching myself out or if I messed up.

Some clarity and pro comments would be helpful..

freedom1981's picture

First you must sure if you did it in the right place . Second you must put the alcoholic wipes and press by your thumb in the injection place . And you said you feel hard in the place of the injection , it means you injected your self fast , next time do it slower and let the oil smoothly go in your glute . And the test you take 200 mg per cc or 250 mg or more ? This can be involved also how much high test in the injection how much you get more pain .

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lofter86's picture

I have a 10ml vial, Test E 300mg per 1ml. I inject about .8 ML. I did press and massage. I took an Ibuprofen yesterday it helped. Today is Day 2 since injection, pain is less, I still feel it when I sit on my ass, but not as much When I do massage the area, it is a bit hardened not as jelly like it was before.

freedom1981's picture

It's the first cycle for you . Why you bought 300 mg per cc
You should bought 250 mg per cc to calculate it right . And 300 mg per cc if this really 300 it will hurt even if you take 0.8 .

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lofter86's picture

Because that's all that my source had...whatever I'll get used to it " fck it "

Makwa's picture

Don't massage immediately after injection. You are just building up more scar tissue doing that.

lofter86's picture

Ok I wont. I got some 25g 1.5" needles, should be here by next week, maybe that will help. Hope I don't sound like a little bitch..lol

guitarplayer1's picture

Bandaid? The Strawberry Shortcake ones?

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It has a pokemon graphic

lofter86's picture

Thanks bro's - jus checking in here to make sure I am doing fine. False alarm ;) Happy pin day

Livelife76's picture

"Then don't be gay about it, you'll be alright" lol

Yeah brotha Virgin Muscle, first few times it'll have some "Kick in the ass". Agree with tron on 25g n heating oil... What mg oil are you running?

Also remember to ROTATE INJECTION SITES, being your first cycle I'm assuming test e or c, need 4 injection sites minimum (4 is fine for your first cycle)

lofter86's picture

Hey brother. I have Test E 300. I have 3 Sets of needles, 18g 1inch, 23g 1.5" and 25g both 5/8" for debts and 1" for quads.

Injecting 2x a week Tues/Friday. 1 body part per week.

Do you think I could use 25g 1" on glutes ?

true grit's picture

Yes. 25 g 1" on glutes unless you have a very fat flabby ass. Then you may never actually hit a muscle.

Seriously. 1" is fine if you're lean enough. If you use 25g 1 1/2" be VERY careful. Especially with being inexperienced pinning. Those bend pretty easily.

Makwa's picture

Now that would make for a bad day busting one of those off in your ass.

Makwa's picture

That's what I use.

Muffins's picture

I use 25g 1" in my glutes.