+ 1 have the goods, now how to make it work
Im 42 have had few cycles under my belt ,some good some not so good,170 pounds little body fat,i had a cycle layout here about a month back, after some feed back ,i decided to drop a couple things,add a couple more and extend the cycle by few weeks.
I plan on running 16 weeks.
This is what i have for gear.
5x10ml sust 250
Anadrol 50mg(50)
Aromasin 25mg(40)
Arimidex 1mg(40)
Nolvadex 20mg(30)
Clomid 50mg(90)
Hcg 15000 iu
Going to start sust 750 a week 1-16
Anadrol starting week2-5,50mg week 2-3 and 100 week4-5.
Not sure when to incorporate the aromasin and arimidex.have read alot of different theories.
And of course at the end of 16 weeks
Clomid 100mg week 18-19,50mg weeks 20-21
Nolvadex,may have to get more, 40mg weeks 18-19,20mg weeks 20-21.
I have all that hcg also just in case.
If any members in our community to help me lay this out completely would be greatly appreciated. Thank you fellow members.
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16 weeks is a little long for test only, recovery will be more dificult and gains will most likely slow down past the 12 week, so keep that in mind. Aromasin from the start to the end of pct at 12.5 eod.
X2....that long ester in sust is gonna suppress.....i say 12 wkr max...
RustyhookerAro from day 1 will stop all gains, crash estro and really suck.
Bloids week 5 to check estro levels. Privatemdlab.com the female hormone panel for $59
Yeeeep....thats true...lol...oily face thingy u brought up is working for me...
cuz acne is just beyond that with me... ;)
Ok, thanks for correcting me. I bloat very quickly on sustanon. On 750 a week It would be too late by week 5 in my case.
RustyhookerEveryone reacts so differently. Cyp or enanthate make easier first cycles so you can feel and see when its climbing up. Sust has the shorter esters so it can pounce.
Might wait til at least getting oilly faced then low dose it.
Start 750 then if start getting oily drop it to 500?start (Aro)also?
No just aro...bro...
aro will kill.ur estro fast..
500mg will get u oily by 4 weeks...when u get oily start aro at 6.25mg...but be careful...use drugs half life for administering...u can drop ur estro really fast with this drug...
ARO every other day at 6.25 ?for the rest of the doraction of cycle or just till my bloods level out ?
Maybe both bro...ur labs will.help...at sixth week u might half to increase to 12.5 eod...i.say try 6.25 eod for starters...good call..
Thank you for taken the time to give me insite on my topic ,working on calculating my diet for the next couple days got all my gear and then some,now to fill the fridge and cabinets to the top to achieve my desired 5000 calerie a day diet,(the hard part)thanks again MEDDX
I think I would go the other way around. Start at 500 and go up. 500 will hit you nicely at the begining of the cycle, if it don't then your gear is underdosed or bunk. Then towards the end when your gains slow down and everything else is in check, you can ramp it up slowly. Your body will deal better with a 500 dose rather than shocking it with 750 from the start.
Defiantly man that was the route I was heading in.thanks.
RustyhookerMight just keep it simple. 500 mg divided so its eod pins.
Pick folks brains on drol. Ive not used it yet.
FL 2g...run 12 wkr at 1g/wk...pulse oral at 25 tid 2/2 wk on/off...eat 5kcal per day and lift like a mofo....bloodwork first...
Thanks again!
Man, aint that the truth.
Yup. Wish the state I live in would allow confidential blood tests like privatemd. It is always a pain in the neck to get it done
By the way i like your workout regamin on your profile,
Ill check that out.as far as (aro) i have never used it before,it was suggested on my last cycle post ,do to my out break in cystic like acne on some past cycles,how would you suggest it to be used?thanks
RustyhookerAro is strong and with anything its bloodwork that tells you the basics of your bodies reactions. If you're greasy then start the doses. Usually around week 4. 6.25 ed and watch for low estro like dry skin and sore joints. Get blood tested though or you're doing guess work.
True that guess work sux..dialing aro does too...eod works for me...and low dose 3....dries the oil off my face...
Thank you brother for your help.
Thanks for the info on the aromasin wasnt completely sure if i should of used it throughout the intire cycle,and as far as test 16 weeks alone ,i was going to run eq and decided not cause of risk of running a much higher nimber with my blood presser,it is a pretty boring cycle i do have a 25 ml bottle of trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate if i decided to get crazy lol.thanks for yoir time BIG THING
why start abombs at week 2? Sus short esters will be starting to kick in a little bit after. I would start at week 1 take full advantage of the time your on.
I was thinking by waiting till week 2 that the drol may run into the cycle smother then right off the jump let the prop start then drop the bombs shortly after.i could start all one shot ,start the drol couple days after first pin.as far as PCT i plan on running the clomid and the nvdx at same time,I do have hcg,should i use that through my cycle or just leave it alone???thanks for your time house
Yeah I was reading your pct wrong. There is a better layout for this in cycle logs. 16 weeks is a long time for just sus and a harder shut down. why 16 weeks?
I posted a cycle layout not long ago on here,some members where stating that that 12 weeks not long enough,witch was my original layout combined with eq at the time,after some valid points i dropped the eq seeing it may put my blood pressure higher then i would like it to be.i wi monitor my blood pressure throughout cycle and if its not tbat bad i do have a jug of trenabol depot to use if the opportunity is there.but i do not have to run 16 if i start to Plato around the 12 then 12 it is,pct and rap it up.
Not a fan of tren. Strongest steroid out there but also the harshest. If you were hesitant about EQ, then tren might not be for you
I understand, was just putting it out there for feed back.
They advised you to stretch it based on EQ. But without EQ I think 12 would be the optimal and safer option.
Also, I see that you are concerned with blood pressure. If you have any pre-existing condition, maybe it would be safer to keep sust at 500mg a week. Higher dose not always means better gains, it is more about proper nutrition and training on cycle, this makes you grow. The higher you go on test, the greater chance of running into problems. Better safe than sorry.
I have had some blood pressure issues in the past where was put on meds,but my diet,cycle and life style had a big role to do with it.i have perfect blood pressure and no meds for some time now all in all great health.i ran about 5 to 6 miles a couple times a week so keeps me pretty lean and healthy.i have ran 500mg test a week in past with success, probably will drop it down.what do you think about maybe adding trenabol depot,?if it was to be added what types of adjustments should be made???
In my honest opinion tren should be used only by professional bodybuilders and really advanced users that know all the risks and will use it responsibly. Sides can hit you fast and hard, not only physical but also mental. Recovery is not easy and also requires knowledge and experience. If you're doing it just to improve your physique, then I would stay away from it.
I agree, i have done trend in the past but not this type,it a bottle i have had laying around for some time now,bd expires next year for some reason bothers me to let it go to wast lol
In the past 7 years i have ran about 8 or 9,some where trial and error, i have ran fast acting such as prop,npp,for 20 weeks lots of pinning, and longer ester's 8,10,20,24 weeks,In the first few years would just take advice from the Yahoo that i was getting it from he was just getting it from another guy he didnt even use supplements or even work out for that matter,starting to do my own research after realizing i was f@#$%&% myself up at times thats how i came across eroids,my last few cycles have been good lots of gains and came off them just right thanks to proper advise from members.i been incarcerated for tbe last 14 monthes i did a lot of running and not enough good calories, proteins.i been home only 4 1/2 monthes,im very lean.while i do train in the past i try to consume 5000 calories a day 2/300 protein a day,my body is at full recovery from past cycles do to my time away want to get my winter bulk cycle right want everything nice and smooth.As far as the anadrol i have done in past cycles 2 or 3 times ,usaly run 50mg everyday for 4 weeks but seeing i have 50 of them figure use them up last couple weeks or could just get more and do first 4 weeks at 50mg and do another 4 weeks at 50mg tords end of cycle.reaching out to member to shift and shape this cycle, thank you all for yoir time.
Hopefully you have a food scale and a calculator...those will help you too...
What were prior cycles?
I tried to bulk w drol not to long ago. By the tenth day I dropped it out. It killed my appetite and I was only using 50mgs. It was to much, everybody is different. But, w your experience 100mgs of drol is to much.
I have 50drol was just goinh use them up depending on how the first couple weeks go on just 50mg if its goinh smoothly was goinh bump it up just to use them up.tbanks historyX
RustyhookerAge: 39Height: 5.6Weight: 160-175BF: not sure
Make sure you have everything before you start. I dont see going past 12. Hit it and quit it.
I haven't run drol. Post your priors. Workout. Meal plan
Those are old stats from my profile,42 now unfortunately i age lol sucks.