posted Fri, 08/07/2015 - 01:28
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End Cycle Due to Gyno?
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Okay, so my nipples are tender and I'm freaked out by high e2 levels in bloods last week.
I'd been taking too much HCG for starters. I've cut back to once every five days as this is in accord with half life. I was having it eod because I didn't want my balls to shrink.
Yesterday, Nolva 40mg
Then 40 tomorrow and 40 on Monday, then 20 on Wednessday, Friday and Sunday > wait for test e to clear > PCT.
I don't want to deal with Gyno. Should I end cycle? Up Arim to .5mg eod and keep going? Sorry, stickies aren't clear. My E2 was way up. Ref range was 163 tops for men and mine was 181. I really don't want to risk it and think I'd be better off calling this one quits to ensure I can stamp it out.
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Just got Friday's bloods - E2 is much lower. Well below ref range(ref range top is 155 > my E2 is 115). Liquid Arim is all good. Thanks.
Are you on PCT> What is with the nolva? Is your arimidex pharm grade??
I started cycle July 24
Anadrol 50mg daily and 600mg test e a week in 3 x 200mg
Anadrol dropped early on day 8 and since then test e has crept up to 750mg a week.
Have been using Arim .25mg eod throughout.
Also been using too much HCG at 200iu or more eod. I've cut back to 200iu HCG every five days. Thinking of upping Arim to .5mg eod and doing bloods on Monday and keep an eye on things over weekend.
Started getting tenderness a day or so ago and thought I'd hit it quick with Nolva.
Arim is from same UG lab that makes test e and anadrol and I know they(test e and anadrol) are fine. Test serum levels were three times highest ref range. My pre-first cycle test levels were 25ish out of a ref range of 11-29. Last week they were 89. Too much
HCG and test e methinks. Maybe drop back to 600mg a week of test e. Not sure the best way to go. Quit or stamp out Gyno and keep going.
I should mention my nipples only feel different / tender when erect and when not erect there is no "rubber ball" feel. But I'm certain this is very early stage Gyno and e2 serum levels confirm.
You have only been on cycle for more than 2 weeks.. your test level has not even peaked yet.
If you are using adex and it is good I would just bump it up to .5 eod and see how that goes for you, that should combat your dose of 750mg a week of test. I know my pharma adex beats the shit out of estrogen, I cut it into tiny pieces and use it that way lol.
If you are severely worried I would get some pharma letrozole and hit that a few times at .25 eod or ed if you are severely gyno prone in which case you may be. I always keep letro on hand in case of flares. Just be weary of crashing your estro.
Make sure you get pharma ancillaries... no liquid pct of ancillaries, if you are using them let us know!
I've been using liquid Arim made by same UG lab as test e and anadrol. Upping the Arim will bring e2 Levels down but I need a SERM right away to treat existing symptoms. That's why I have Nolva...made by same UG lab.
I've got pharma grade ancillaries on the way but they're coming from overseas and may take weeks. I think I should drop the cycle and use it as a test to see how well I can recover. /end cycle > Nolva > PCT
That is completely up to you at this point.. I just think the AI you have may be underdosed or bunk...
That's always a possibility but the guys who sell use it themselves and are a highly regarded domestic source. Anyway, Gyno symptoms are gone already so I'm going to stick with it - test e 600mg a week.
Sweet bro, happy to hear.. enjoy your cycle!!