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-1 EQ + Sustanon 1rst cycle

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Hi everyone,

I've posted a question here in this forum a few weeks back, and you guys helped me a lot. It was related to a first cycle plan. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the gear I wanted/needed for that cycle. So now I will have to come up with a whole different plan, and I would appreciate if you guys can give me a hand.

Originally the cycle was basically 12 weeks of test (500/w) and proviron.
But now what I have with me (only this gear was available) is Sustanon (20ml total), Proviron (2 boxes), EQ (20 ml), Nolvadex (1 box), Clomid (1 box), hcg (2 x 5000iu), and Aromasin (1 box).

So the cycle I'm considering now would be something like 14 weeks of Sustanon and EQ (750gr - 600 gr week respectively) Proviron at 25/50 week, Aromasin 12.5 mg eod.

pct- 2 weeks after last injection: Nolvadex 20,20,20,20 (1 whole box), Clomid 50,50,25,25, Aromasin 12.5 mg eod (3 weeks).

hcg- starting one week before last injection at 1000iu week, till pct starts. (maybe running hcg during cycle at 500 iu because this is a "long" cycle?)

Last but not least, I would like to mention that this Sustanon is a blend that comes with 350mg/ml, and the EQ 250mg/ml, obviously not from pharmacy (underground labs). Proviron, hcg, clomid etc etc is from pharmacy tho.

I would appreciate any advise from you guys,

Cheers!

PS: my stats really quick, 35 years old, 1'83 cm tall (6 feet), 78kg (171 pounds), 11%bf, 4 years gym. Looking for a lean and mean bulk. Thanks!

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kodiakGRRL's picture

well people dont think a thing about BUGGING me for pics .. I m a premenopausal woman (according to Irish's calculations) so .. I am asking for pics or I m not helping ;o

IrishMack's picture

Now I'm starting to think I bothered you more then the guys I referred it to. If only I could remove that post and then hit you with the men in black memory eraser. BTW can you post a pic for me?

Catalyst's picture

Exactly the position I took here.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/test-e-anavar-cy...

Can't help them all. I'm certainly not putting a cycle together for a guy of this size based on the info provided. Needs his diet fixed, not gear.

Dickkhead's picture

Long overdue time to hear from you popeye80. Folk are not gonna keep posting here without your involvement.

popeye80's picture

Oops! Sorry bro, I was checking my email account, but I've never recieved any notification.
Anyway, my bad!

Whitetrash's picture

He didn't get the answer he wanted so: crickets.

popeye80's picture

bro, i have been hitting the refresh botton of my email account quite frequently... i didnt get notifications! sorry

Whitetrash's picture

I told you in your last post that a first cycle is always test e only and yet you come back with this proposal? Are you listening to the advice, you seemed to be the last time? Catalyst gave you diet advice, have you been following it?

popeye80's picture

"I've posted a question here in this forum a few weeks back, and you guys helped me a lot. It was related to a first cycle plan. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the gear I wanted/needed for that cycle" That's how I started my post. So your response doesn't make much sense in my honest opinion. Think about it for a sec, don't roid rage me plz just yet. Cheers

popeye80's picture

That's why i came here bro, so I can ask you guys. I didn't come here to offend you in any shape or form.
Thank you anyway

Justanotherguy's picture

Well everybody I found the original cycle... Don't exaclty know how it got worse...

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/1rst-cycle-advice

cry_havoc's picture

I have to absolutely know....what was the first cycle going to be? I think I'm missing something here since you have everything there you need to run a first cycle.

popeye80's picture

just wanted to check if this cycle is ok or not, and how to run it properly.
Thanks

Catalyst's picture

No. Not appropriate.you should Lready know this from your other post.

In your other post you were advised on what was a good cycle and you at least gave the impression you were taking it on board. Your response, come back and post another cycle that ignores all the advice given.

I'm done.

popeye80's picture

No, no. It's not correct sir. If you read my post, this is how I started: "Hi everyone, I've posted a question here in this forum a few weeks back, and you guys helped me a lot. It was related to a first cycle plan. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the gear I wanted/needed for that cycle". So it says: UNFORTUNATELY, I COULDN'T GET the gear. Hence, I was asking you now if this new cycle was ok or not, since is the gear I have at hand. If you say: oh, well, it's not a good cycle, it's better if you just wait to get test and eat more bananas in the mean time" Ok, i would follow that. But don't treat me as if I was ignoring your advice. And don't really need your atitude, and your "I'm done", as If I'm trying to fuck you up or something. Relax, big guy.

Catalyst's picture

You keep writing "this is the gear I could get". It doesn't matter. You did get it. You have it. You're adding other stuff. Let me explain in simple terms.

You were advised to run test only right???? Do we at least agree on that?

You have test do you not????? (Sustanon) You do realise Sustanon is test? So you could run "just test" with what you've got, couldn't you? Just don't pin the other stuff. I don't see why you can't work that out.....

"I have 20ml of test and 20ml of EQ. I only wish to use the test. How do I do it?"

Which part of this don't you understand? Do you see why it looks like you're ignoring people now?

As for "the attitude" and "relax", I'll avoid commenting, I'll just leave you with your guide on how to not pin two compounds and hopefully a little "oh I see" moment. If you still can't work it out, I can't explain it any simpler.

Enjoy.

popeye80's picture

oh I see.

Catalyst's picture

Joking / sarcasm aside, does it make sense now? Just run the sust! Not ideal as a first cycle, but it's the best plan in the situation.

popeye80's picture

got it, thank you.

Justanotherguy's picture

The simple solution is... ( and I know you're notngonna like this)

Shelve the gear.

1) weight is a little low for your height.
2) Do not run sustanon (either by itself or with another counpound for a first cycle)

Try this: take 6 months. Ask an advanced guy for a goal specific training program, or there are many already floating around in the web. Save up some more, and all you need is 24mls of test enth. A certain source regularly puts on 50% off promos, where you can get pharmacy grade ampoules for 5$ each... Totaling 120$ + shipping.

In the mean while, for the next 6 months run that training program aforementioned.. While eating 6000 calories a day. If you don't notice improvement in 45 days ( in mass/ and overall muscle) I will personally apologise for wasting your time.

Best of luck, and don't forget go heavy on squats and deadlifts!
JAG

guitarplayer1's picture

Good advice

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popeye80's picture

That's all I wanted bro. Just pharmacy grade Test. But I have no clue where to get it. So I ended up buying underground shit and quite expensive.. I would get rid of my gear in a heartbeat if I could get real stuff...
Any ideas?

Justanotherguy's picture

Forgot to explain the sustanon thing.
Sustanon is made up of 4 different types of test, of which you have never tried before. Until you know how one reacts with you, you shouldn't put 4 in ( especially Propionate which is notorious for PIP)

Take it slow bro, theres no real rush

Dickkhead's picture

Originally the cycle was basically 12 weeks of test (500/w) and proviron

Bro, we NEVER design cycles around what gear we have on hand. NEVER. Cycles are designed around current stats and goals. At six feet, 171 lbs. you're a little light to be heading off to AAS to gain weight quite frankly. At 35 you should be able to gain mass with diet and training dialed in fairly easily unless there is some underlying medical condition.

In any case, with a website as rich in sources as we have, you should have no problem at all getting enough Test for a 12 week cycle. If you could provide the link to where we advised that that was appropriate for you it would be most helpful. (a few weeks back like you say).

popeye80's picture

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/1rst-cycle-advice

About getting gear, I had no clue about what you said. I've tried to ask about where and how to get what I needed, and got banned from other websites.
So, can I ask you then.... about getting enough Test for 12 weeks? How? Where?

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, this is the internet's number one review site for anabolic steroids. All you need to is click on the "sources" tab on the top navigation and you will be whisked away to a list of hundreds and hundreds of suppliers of roids.
Why don't you just buy from one of the top 5 for starters. BUT, read the reviews. The reviews are what eroids is all about - you get first hand information from folk that have bought gear from each of the sources and you can make an informed decision from the information.

popeye80's picture

Just one last question, let's say you find a good supplier... Which lab is goot to go? is there any lab that you preffer? is there any list of the current top underground labs?

guitarplayer1's picture

I prefer Stop And Shop, Trader Joes, Market Basket..

Dude take the advice that Justanotherguy gave you. Try eating your way to size first.

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popeye80's picture

yeah, I understand your concern. My bodyfat is 10% tho, my bones are chick size, and I'm lean as fuck. I bench press 110kg (242 pound) -1 or 2 reps. I fucking do human flag exercices. I eat like a camel. But I don't grow as much as I wanted. I might be wrong, of course, but I'm hoping to get a little help by using steroids.
But hey, what the fuck do I know.

guitarplayer1's picture

Let's get down to the bottom of it then. How much and what do you eat daily?

@6' and 10% bf your natural genetic potential is 206 lbs. Here's a link

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/whats-my-genetic-muscular-p...

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popeye80's picture

206 sounds a bit too much bro! I don't think I wanna go there. 190 lbs would be just nice. So maybe 20 more lbs (of muscle)
I eat 5, sometimes 6 times / day. Breakfast usually consists of oats, banana, milk, nuts, peanut butter and eggs/ 3 hours in between meals/ Turkey sandwitch, yougurt, nuts/ Beef, boiled potatoes, tomatoes, greens/ protein shake/ fish, greens, potatoes, fruits/ sometimes one more shake.
That's more or less one of my daily ruitines, sometimes I add pasta, cheese, or whatever I feel I need.
What do you think

guitarplayer1's picture

I think you should atleast be eating 4500 calories each and every day to even make 190 lbs.

I have no idea how many calories you eat. You should keep a daily log on how much you eat.

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popeye80's picture

awesome, I'll def check it out, thanks bro