posted Fri, 03/27/2015 - 12:25
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Test and deca cycle wondering about throwing in anavar
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I am on trt and cruze at 200 mg a week but currently started to blast a cycle in. I am at 500 mg test for the last week and thought i would run that with deca @ 200 ml a week in a week or so and then add in anavar at the 5 or 6 week mark at 10mg per day. total cycle would be about 12 weeks then back to 200 mg of test back to cruzing. Advice?
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So I thought I would let the readers that come across this that wonder what I really did know what I really did. If anyones happens to give a Fu--
so first i learned research, research, research, then research some more. So I spent days researching and came to the conclusion to do nothing like gearhead suggested at first. I thought I would just see how an elevated test cycle with decca would go(cause thats what I was already on). If anything I would have added the proviron as rusty mentioned to research but i'll add that next time. I found out you really can't do anything till you know where the bloods are at. Which does not mean once every 6 months from the hormone dr. Pre, post, and end of cycle is necessary for your health. This will tell the story.
so I found where to do the bloods rather cheap from rusty in an old post (thanks rusty) at Private md labs. So this will be my new standard.
And for future cycles from here on I will get my goals in order and stick to beginner cycles, add compounds slowly, do the bloods to see what they do to me.
Thanks guys for getting me to pay attention I really got a lot out of this thread.
Sounds like you are taking the right approach now.
If it wasn't for you guys I would have just thrown compounds at my body. I am glad that there was somewhere to ask my question in the first place. I have a lot of research to do still and now I am more confident in selecting a next cycle with proper time off and PCT. I'm hoping the blood work isn't too difficult too figure out though.
I couldn't be more grateful to you guys that answered this thread. Your time saved me from F-n up!
Your talking about using these compounds with strange doses. Have a look at at this to help clear things up hopefully.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/recommended-d...
Great Info Thank you very much
Ok so I did a few hours of research and came up with this
wk 1-12 600 mg test split 2x wk
wk 1-12 300 mg of decca split 2x wk
wk 6-12 Tbol 20mg ED
all while doing .2ml of HCG 2x wk and anastrozole @ .5mg eod that my doc has me on
wk 13 back to 200 mg test for TRT for 12-16 weeks then try another cycle use EQ instead of decca At a proper EQ dose.
What do you guys think?
And Im not sure how much tbol to do. I was going to start with 20mg ED. What is the best time to take it if any? split it?
Anon20mg of tbol wont do much. 40-50mg is a good starting point, split into 2x per day dosing. Half life is something like 16 hours if I remember correctly.
As far as blasting for 12 weeks, cruising for 4 weeks and then blasting again, I dont think its a good idea nor do I see the point. Even if you are trt and dont have to do pct doesnt mean you shouldn't take adequate time off between cycles.
No blast for 12 weeks then back to cruising for 12-14 or so weeks before another cycle
It will be my first time for Tbol should I start at 20 mg the week I start it then work my way up to the 40mg?
AnonAh I see thanks. I would just start at 40mg, thats still somewhat of a low dose. Just want you to get something out of it because it is a great compound. I usually run it anywhere between 60-80mg per day depending on the lab.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinkRustyhookerYou complained on that other persons forum that the advice here was garbage. Wrong buddy! The advice you got from gear head was on point. If you just throw compounds together because they "look nifty" you're not matching any compounds. Not taking advantage of goals or receptors. Not maximizing.
There's better choices on orals that can be made depending on goals buddy. I don't see var as a good one in here.
Ultimately, it's your body so if you're not going to accept freely given advice then pull up the panties and dry the eyes. Overall, if you're going for recomp after 10 years on stage it seems like experience isn't matching gear.
The English language really trashes people's intentions. Anytime I see "throw in" in this forum I start shaking my head. As usual great advice, just wish more people would pay attention. This is why I spend less time in the cycle forums nowadays
Not trying for stage presence
I just read gearhead's reply and he still doesn't answer the question at hand. But I get it.
If you read the whole thread it kind goes "what do think your doing guy" and I never really get an answer except for gearhead's reply which just came this morn. thanks gearhead
Any way its fine I'm not crying, my panties are up and I'll just keep lifting and dieting like I have been
I'll get my BF down to 12% i'm on my way anyway. Then I'll just run a bulk cycle of test and decca 2:1 for 12weeks ...How's that? then back to cruise
at least I now know Not to run anavar during a test and decca cycle.... and run test and decca 2:1
and rusty I should have waited a little more time for reply's. And your right I am getting info out of this thread I was wrong, but I feel as though I am being laughed at for asking a simple question.Oh and I did mention that my past gear experience wasn't that great so yeah it doesn't match my years experience. I trained most of those years natural.
Thanks to the rest for your info...
Bro, I'm just trying to get you to do some work so that you learn something. I'm not laughing at you. So, you think you want to use deca for a first cycle? Do you know what prolactin is? What the purpose of a dopamine agonist is? What AI are you gonna use? This is first grade stuff. Learn. That's all I ask.
Thanks this is what I am looking for. Much appreciated. I will go and research prolactin and the dopamine agonist.
I use amiridex @ .5mg e2d
I have a trt doctor and get bloods checked every few months
i thought adding the decca would be good because of size gain and some joint relief
RustyhookerAnytime you post and the forum isn't covered just hit me up. I never sleep...adhd. cycles with more bf just means more precautions. BP and estro in check. Provi to kill the SBH. Recomp is just more prep.
Dry and hard, I'd research tbol. For dropping bf just need enough gear to hold the muscle for the lower or modified carbs and cardio. It isn't easy or I'd be hard cut as well. Always the damn foods. Lol
Thank you Rusty. I value your opinion. I have read many good posts from you.
I will research the tbol
Yep the foods
FR sent
Test and Decca together .. Yes .. Test decca and anavar .. No what are you trying to do here ? What r u trying to accomplish
Advice? Do nothing.
Bro, I know you are new and I am not willing to sit here and type and type and use a divining rod to guess at what your goals are with this. 200 mg of deca is not going to produce anything besides therapeutic joint relief (not for you necessarily but someone who needs it) and 10 mg of oxandrolone? What do you think that is supposed to do for ya?
Really bro?
Well, that's my main goal also so we have something in common! But, I bet that our approaches to that lofty goal are somewhat different.
There is a whole bunch of information on steroids on this website. Read some of it and come back and propose something legitimate that we can critique.
Hormones really do help but keep in mind that diet and training will determine more than 80% of your results in transforming your physique so I would like to hear something about your diet.
My trainer was just pointing out some folks in my gym that he remembers from 7 years ago that look the same today as they did then. And they juice. Shame really.
So I used to body build from 1988-1998 10 years. I did some roids never knew a thing about them. i just listened to whatever the dealer told me to do. Hell he was huge! There was no online steroid anything I knew about back then. I had a good physique back then and I did learn a lot about diet and training. After getting back to the gym in 2010 I realized I wanted that awesome body. Midlife crisis.
My diet is on point. I eat 6 meals a day and count my macs...my wife says I am an asshole about food although I do have one cheat meal a week or I would go NUTS! I watch my water intake as well for if I don't I get massive headaches anyway.
I am in the gym 5 days a week and do at least 3 sessions of cardio a week. I vary my lifting from heavy to light every few months or so and change the routine up every few weeks. I am also going to join a biking club for more cardio for the summer.
I have been at this for 5 years scince renewing my goals. I have made a complete transformation for myself but I owe some of that to muscle memmory. I would agree the diet and training is what made that transformation. More so the DIET. But without the training I will not get HUGE.
So the drugs come in at the 3 year mark. To make a long story short ....I wasn't recovering well so I went to the doc, scored low T and got on some TRT, HGC, and anastrozole. Awesome. I was feeling like I was thirty again and making steady gains.
So now I have slowed again and have read how people cruse and blast and would like to get huge by crusing and blasting every once in awhile. So i turned to you guys to see if it was a bad idea to do this:OP
keep in mind I am older I have to worry about blood pressure as it is higher on the roids. HB runs in my family. I use lisinipril @ 10 mg to keep it almost regular. About to go to 20mg.
And the anavar at 10 mg was just to see how i react to it. Also the thought on the anavar was to increase strength to push heavier weight. Some were using it an hour or 2 before training time
the decca was for help with the joint relief but i was hoping stacking it with the increase in test would help a little on size
My goal weight 215lbs fat 6-8%
current weight 200lbs fat 14-16% I see it as losing 15lbs of fat and need to gain 30 lbs of muscle and a good 15 of that 30 in the legs alone. Yes I am training the legs hard
So there thats what I really meant. I wanted advice so I wasn't just throwing drugs at my system for shit and giggles. Test and decca is a solid stack. I have read that numerous times. I just have access to anavar and thought hell... I don't know .....I'll ask.
Thanks for the reply bro. IMHO, I would cut the fat back to a solid 12% before trying to gain mass with a steroid cycle. This can be achieved by diet alone.
What I want you to do is research bulking cycles on the website. There are tons of them. Get an understanding of how they work and what realistic expectations are from a 1st run. Come back with a plan.
I don't blame you for asking one of us to just design a cycle for you and throw it over the transom but as I have said to many before you - we just don't do concierge cycle design here.
I also don't think you should pay a consultant to do it for you either. If you don't take the time to learn the compounds - how they interact with one another - what ancillaries are required - you will not have the knowledge to make little mid-cycle adjustments if they are needed.
You can FR me and I will accept if there are some strange things that you simply don't understand, but I would like to keep this conversation in the open forum so that maybe someone else will benefit from it.
You just got another +3 bro........ im liking your style today, bout time we got some honesty back into these threads instead of just rolling with it and massaging some fools stupid fkn non-intelligable ideas.
10 mg of anavar a day?? Are you a girl or what. Have you even researched that compound? It sounds like you are just throwing compounds into this cycle for shits and giggles and not using them how the should be to reach a specific goal you have set.
What is your goal for this cycle anyway?
+3 bro............... lets keep the honesty rolling and get rid of fuckers that just sroll in these pages and co-sign every shit cycle under the sun.
Time to fix this cycle section and bring back the people who know what they are talking about.
Did you start the Deca and Test at the same time?
no about to start the deca in a week. wanted the test to kick up first.
My opinion you should be starting test and deca at the same time @ 2:1 test- deca.
Have you ran Deca before?
yes but it was like 1991. I was worried about decca dick or is that when you come off decca that happens?