305red's picture
305red
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2028

Think I messed up my A.I.

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This is my 1st cycle. Just started my 4th week of test cyp 350mg twice a week (700mg Cyp a week) I plan on running this for a total of 12 weeks.
I thought I could use Nova during my cycle and For pct??
I also plan on stacking OSTARINE With the Nova for PCT, good idea??
But some places I hear nova is not good during cycle and some say it is good during cycle.
I do have an over the counter A.I. "LIQUIDEX A.I. I am not stacking since it's my 1st cycle just cyp. And was counting on using the nova if I saw signs but now that I hear nova is not the way to go Iam looking into clomid, Arimidex or aroma taste but that aroma taste is expensive.
So am I going to need something else with Nova for pct I hear some people stack it with clomid for pct.
What do I need product wise for Oncycle A.I and pct ??
I have put on about 7-9lbs from week 2-3 then platueu but I'm thinking its water weight so I went and did labs today and will have results in the next few days to test E2, but I want to have a plan for A.I just in case I don't like the results and now Iam not so sure Nova and the LIQUIDEX A.I will protect me properly from e2

mmallday's picture

I had similar questions in regard to keeping pre existing gyno in check on cycle, got exactly the answers i needed:

https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/pre-existing-...

Makwa's picture

Get some pharma aromasin or arimidex NOW! Aromasin at 12.5mg Ed or adex at .25mg E3D. These will likely need to be started by week 4 or 5 but the bloodwork you are getting now will let you know if you have to start it right away or if you are on your way to sporting some manboobs. Your PCT is a mess and needs to fixed so listen to these guys and get some clomid. You jumped into the deep end here without doing any research. Not good bro! But if you can get some pharma AI ASAP you may be OK.

305red's picture

Thanks Makwa, I have clomid and Aromasin on the way and using over the counter A.I until it arrives. Thinking about lowering my dose from 700mg cyp to 600mg a week till A.I arrives unless my labs come back and show my E2 is stable

Makwa's picture

lowering your dose with a long ester is not going to make a difference until a couple of weeks later. If your nips are getting sensitive dose your nolva at 40mg/day until your AI arrives.

305red's picture

Ok. Just got my results just came back:
Estradiol= 39.7
Testosterone =1500
I have been on test cycle for 24 days when the labs were done. Is this a high E2 the range is 7.6-42.6 but that is for women

JL's picture

Your e2 is ok. I'd like to see it a little lower around 30. However for almost being 4 weeks at your test dose, 1500 seems low..

Edit: what measurement was used on your blood test. I'm also assuming that is your total test?

305red's picture

I thought my test was low as well . It's the only colum I see for "testosterone, serum " 1500.
I been pinning 200mg cyp twice a week so 400mg a week for the 1st 3 weeks and pinned 350mg twice a week for the 4week (which Iam in) I was hoping to see a higher test level but glad to hear E2 isn't out of control. I started an over the counter A.I last night until Aromasin arrives. Should I up my dose of test cyp? So far my body is headlong the dose Iam on really good I'm thinking a lil more should be ok? Is there any other levels I should be concerned with now that I have the results?
I see my lute ionizing hormone is already low "0.7"
A swell as my
FSH, serum 0.2
Iam not sure what you mean by "what measurements was used on your blood test?"

JL's picture

Smh.. This is a mess..What are your stats? Do some research! Lay out a complete first cycle. There are threads here to lead the way.. aromisan or arimadex for e2 control not serms (nolva) save it for pct.. Also add clomid to pct. Dude your at the tipping point right now. Meaning you might be able to abort the cycle and be just fine. However you also may have already shut down your natural production of testosterone and will need to run a proper pct.

305red's picture

What's the purpose of adding clomid to Pct if I am already using nova??

305red's picture

What's the purpose of adding clomid to Pct if I am already using nova??

Livelife76's picture

I asked the same as I saw a lot of cycles here and on other sites where Nolva by itself was ran @ 40ed for first 2 weeks then 20ed for remainder of PCT.. but as I was informed Clomid n nova go together well n why chance it right, being first cycle you really want to do things right bro, dose Clomid 100ed first 2weeks then 50ed last two..

When to start pct is kind of a depends who u ask kind of thing, two weeks after last inject is standard I believe but I'm starting 18 days after last injection... use the search engine here bro. Learn something new everyday..

Hope this helps bro, good luck with cycle

305red's picture

Yeah that's messing me up I'll read a few that say "this time "then others reviews that say "that time". I'll try in the search engine thx man

Makwa's picture

18 days is perfect. 2 weeks is to soon.

CBBurrr's picture

You have some reading up to do, reading you should have done before starting your cycle.
Your liquedex is likely to be ineffective or fake. Nolva is only part of what you for PCT.

You should look in the cycle log section and read up on other peoples first cycles.

aroma taste is something you experience at a fine restaurant, not a drug.

read up on aromasin

305red's picture

I meant Aromasin it was my spell check putting aroma taste