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I've been struggling for time recently juggling a tough time at work with a family issue to handle, so getting to the gym has been more difficult than usual. As a result I've been training at a gym just around the corner to work rather than a well known midlands dungeon.....

There's a couple of guys in reasonable shape, friendly to me so have said hi etc. I emphasize "reasonable". This lunchtime one of them decided to approach the subject of gear with me. I've seen him getting out of an Aston Martin DB9 so obviously isn't short of cash, today I realised it was probably from selling gear.

We get talking about cycles etc, I admit nothing about my own use at first but finally respond with "done a couple many years ago". He tells me he can get hold of whatever I need. I decided I'd humour this guy, play fairly ignorant and say I've run two test only cycles, "what would you recommend for someone like me".

Without knowing my goals, what I do, if my diet is crap etc, this is what he suggests.

10weeks Tren E 800mg/wk
10weeks Deca 1000mg/wk
10weeks Sustanon 1000mg/wk

Then take 2 weeks off and repeat. Unfortunately yes, you did read that right......

This guy, roughly 45 years old tells me he's done this for the last 3 years. No PCT, no AI, no prolactin, no idea what these even are by the sound of it.

Reality check, this is what the uneducated do. Scarey that this guy is advising people with this kind of limited knowledge to run 2.8g of gear per week. I'm going to keep playing the game with this guy, see what other pearls of wisdom I can "learn" from him. You have to be aware this is "the guy to go to" in this gym, he's about 5-6", 190lbs ish, 9-10% BF so the youngsters look at him in awe. He's the biggest there, must know what he's doing so I'll listen to him.

THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARRIVE WITH SUCH AWFUL CYCLE PLANS.

DO NOT COPY THIS CYCLE

warpAqualung's picture

I know a commercial gym where 20 year old kids do 10 weeks of tren with no pct like if it was candy.

robb's picture

I know a 17 year old who's cycle would make the above look like a beginner's cycle.

Seriously he's probably using more gear than what I believe a pro would use.

He's all about that yolo, he even said that to me!

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Catalyst's picture

Shocking. I guess I've started to realise that this sort of thing is much more prevalent than I thought.

The Impastable's picture

It gets worse when there's these youngins stacking PHs, yet they have the physique of a teenage girl.

Catalyst's picture

There's a few like that there. Thankfully I'm mostly back in my "proper gym" this week training with the grown ups ;)

The Impastable's picture

Haha, where I'm at they pretty much got rid of all the big boy gyms, at least within reasonable range. We have mostly commercial gyms, but the stupidity is prevalent regardless of the location from my experience.

Catalyst's picture

By means of an update, going to play along with this guy for a bit and buy a little gear from him. Been a long time since I've purchased from a gym guy so I'm intrigued to see what I get for the overpriced costs.......

Dickkhead's picture

The gym dealers here in Florida are buying from some eroids sources when they have sales (50% off) and then charging street drug prices. The good news is they have the eroids reviews to work with and don't need to worry about being accused of selling junk or worse contaminated gear brewed in somebody's garage. It's nice to see that the gym dealers have good taste in product (using the same lab I use). LOL

Catalyst's picture

That's as big part of my curiosity, will it be an eroids source and even one I have used?

Worth a couple of hundred £'s just to find out.

Loco-T's picture

You sure know how to entertain people dont you

Catalyst's picture

Well this guy turned up with some tasty looking organon sust. Quite suprised!

The Impastable's picture

Oooooh now I'm excited. You gonna send it to a lab to get it tested?

Catalyst's picture

I'm a biochemist mate, I can test it myself Smile

The Impastable's picture

Oh snap. my apologies then! I look forward to seeing the results Blum 3

PIN_CUSHION's picture

He's professor Hank McCoy AKA The Beast! They tend to frown when has a Tren rage and starts hanging from the ceiling.

The Impastable's picture

I would imagine that's the least of their worries when he has tren Rage!!

Loco-T's picture

I have a relative that is fairly well built and he keep advising my little cousins to run cycles of tren alone with no advice on prolactin control, Ai or pct what so ever and i forgot to mention that he got a well built gyno aswell. Also he runs tren year round.

cd1's picture

Sounds like he was hoping you would say....how much money for all that gear and then buy it so he could fuel his DB.
bet he looked like a sack of shit...lol

tzelukie's picture

Got one of those at my gym, he hangs around with all the young boys, no doubt supplying them, he doesn't come near me... I don't exactly exude the come talk to me when I'm training, it's more of a don't fucken bother me I'm busy, and no I'm not impressed that you sell gear to stupid kids. Fucken douche bags. Sorry rant over!

cdyrdes's picture

Unfortunately this is starting to set in as the norm.

konig's picture

He might have suggested that cycle due to the way you already look.. I mean come on bro you are a sick cunt, you were probably engulfing him in mass and height alone Lol!!

Catalyst's picture

I'm sure to a degree that is true mate. At the moment I look like shit though, "fat" Is the best word I've got to describe!

Catalyst's picture

Not yet. I've a feeling they're coming someday though......

PIN_CUSHION's picture

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BawsDawg's picture

some of my clients that are on gear have been given horrible advice from "gym friends" or trainers.
But none have been given advice for that amount of gear per week!

Catalyst's picture

I only discuss my gear use with those I've known for a long time so I have to admit this was a real shock to me, particularly the small amount of time off. Got me thinking is this what people consider to be "the norm"?

GRIMEY's picture

Sad but not surprising. At my gym from what I have heard, 1g of test seems to be the starting point and base for every cycle these young guys are running. We also have the douche that rolls up in his M5 and skinny jeans that advises an supplies all these poor kids.

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GRIMEY's picture

It certainly is. Being able to fit into those things isnt something tombe proud of. He wears those dress shoes with the pointed toes that kind curl up at the end as well. .... Just one of those guys you wanna punch every time you see him.

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cdyrdes's picture

Hate them shoes

rolltide3's picture

Hmmm thought looking at your avatar u would want to punch any chicken u come across lol

GRIMEY's picture

hahaha yeah, those chickens really grind my gears.

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The Impastable's picture

Wait so you mean that this is not the way to run gear?! Fuck, I need to go re evaluate everything now...

I've seen worse bro... I've managed to overhear the local gym guru at my older gym advising guys, maybe 19-20 , on a PH stack consisting of three ( YES, THREE ) pro hormones for 12 weeks...

If only one could invest in human stupidity... I'd be rich from the guaranteed returns.

Catalyst's picture

He certainly didn't get it using his IQ.......

Catalyst's picture

Thanks mate. Things are calming down and getting back to normality after a messy few weeks. I'll drop you a line on PM in the near future.

Catalyst's picture

When I first ran gear this type of clown was all we had. Thankfully you should be spared the majority of the mistakes some of us old farts made.

vhman's picture

Wow..... Just.... Wow...