My 2nd cycle (screwed up first cycle) so technically I am starting again from scratch
Hi Guys,
I am planning on a cycle again.
My first cycle was Test E and Tren Ace, I screwed up as I had least knowledge about it. I knew nothing about caber or prami and AIs. But it was 2 months ago and was a 11 weeks cycle. I gained 12 pounds with that cycle and still am keeping that weight. Over all it was not a complete disaster.
Anyways, back on the topic, I have been reading around and gaining knowledge from everywhere possible and I have come up to a conclusion of doing a sustanon cycle.
My cycle plan is,
Week 1 - 12 Sustanon (750 mg per week) ( Shots Mon, Wed & Fri - 250mg each)
Week 1 - 12 HCG (500 UI per week) (1 shot per week)
Week 1 - 12 AI (Arimidex .5mg EODor Letrozole 1.25mg EOD)
Pct (week 15 till 19)
Clomid - 100 100 50 50
Nolvadex - 40 40 20 20
My query is that should I use Arimidex as AI during cycle or Letrozole. I know Letrozole will shut down estrogen upto 98% and will give me a hard look. Can I use Arimidex for first 6 weeks and then letrozole for the last six weeks?
Also, Should I add Stanazol in my last 6 weeks, say 50mg/ml 3 shots per week? or winny tabs? Should I use Dbol as kick starter or not?
I won't be starting my cycle till February as I am giving my body 4 months to recover from my last cycle(disaster).
Please comment and correct me anywhere you think I lack in something.
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Thanks mate. Will do in February. And yes I am still researching. Thanks for the advice
Nope. Start over from the beginning AGAIN! Ran tren first cycle for one and now you wanna run 750mg test. Just stupid.
Thanks man for the reply. Should just do test e 750mg a week then? Or lower down the dosage? Hcg is required still?
Did you do any type of PCT for that first cycle?
What was the actual cycle that you ran? dosing and such.
Have you had any blood work done to see if you are recovering from the cycle? Tren is a hard shutdown and 11 weeks of tren ace is a long time.
I also suggest doing more research on AIs. There are A LOT of good postings on what to use, why to use them and how to use them. Hint: Letro on hand is a good idea but using letro probably not a good idea.
As rolltide stated below sust might not be the best option as the frequent pinning required. A Test e/c cycle will do wonders with a good diet. As far as adding anything else I would say no.
But before you start anything you need to get blood work done to gauge how you have truly recovered.
Hi mate, thanks for the comment.
I did test e 500 mg a week and then started tren ace 75mg/ml 3 times a week from week 3. But I then increased the dosage to 1000mg test at week 8 to 10 and I had tren 100mg/ml 3 times that week. Then I did 500 mg test e in week 11 and was left with 250 mg of test and did that on Monday of week 12.
Started my pct after 2 weeks and ran clomid 40 and nolvadex 40 2 weeks and 20 20 2 weeks.
I want to use letrozol as it destroys the pre existing gyno. I have a little bit of gyno issue and I think letro will fade it away.
I will get my blood tested next month and I will go for test e cycle 750 mg a week for 12 weeks. Do you think it's too much and I should just do 500 mg a week?
Another thing, can I add some anavar as a kick starter say 30 to 40 mg per day for 3 weeks and then at the end of the cycle, week 9 till 12?
Also is hcg a good thing to do in this cycle?
Thanks for your support man
Okay you have a lot going on right here.
First off now that you have gyno I think you need to take care of this first. I have never had gyno so I can not comment directly on what has worked for people but there are a few good threads on the topic if you use the search function. I would NOT try and fix gyno while at the same time starting a new cycle. IMO you should fix gyno before thinking about cycling and you need blood work if you can get it asap. I would say get it twice once now and then later down the road after you have worked on that gyno.
As for the cycle 500mg a week test only is the best option. HCG is really overkill on that type of cycle. And no need for orals, just try and get a first good cycle down. That first one is a complete disaster but I am not going to bash you for it since you already realize that.
Thanks mofo. I will get the blood work done during the upcoming week, I am from Australia and we can't really use juice here and if they find out in my blood work, I am screwed. I finished my pct during the first week of November. I think I am good to go.
And for gyno I have read people doing just letro cycle, is that for real? Can I do that too?
Ahh. If you are from Australia I would join the aussie group: http://www.eroids.com/og/aussies-and-kiwis.
Letro has been used solo for gyno issues. I have never done it but others have. It would not be fun. You basically crash your estrogen on purpose. I have seen a lot of people have used raloxifene as well. That is a serm so it shouldn't have the bad sides letro usually gives. But you really should do some searches get some info and then you could make a post in general talk with a proposed plan and get some feed back.
As far as that blood work goes. I know Australia is a pain when it comes to AAS. I know there are quit a few aussies on eroids so they should be able to give some help.
Thanks heaps mofo for your help mate. I ll sort out my gyno first and then will look forward for a cycle. Cheers mate!!
Im going to be starting my 2nd cycle next month also. Im sticking with test e and dbol. Going to run it for 12 weeks. I would take it slow dude. Dont over do yourself. You are a young pup dont damage yourself. But you do what you think is right and what you can handle. Be safe. Make sure you get lab draws.
Thanks man, yeah I will stick to test e cycle too as I remember when I started test e on my previous cycle I was at 93 kgs and checked after 2 weeks , the weight was 98 kgs. Hope it will work again haha!!! Thanks for you comment.
So your 25 by your stats. Why are u goin balls out like this. Your first cycle was a complete disaster. Back down do a simple test e or c cycle. Shots twice a week for a total of 400 mgs to 500 mgs a week. U need to learn your body and how your body handles the aromization process. Sustanon has a bunch of different esters in it and can be harder to figure out your ai. Keep it simple learn your body. U don't need 750 mgs for a first or second cycle. Twelve weeks test e cycle 400 ta 500 a week that's it and pick up both arimidex and aromisin bc u don't know how your body is goin to respond. Always have extra then not have it when u need it
Thanks for the comment mate, you are 100% correct. I have been working out since a teen almost 5 6 years I think I can handle 750 mgs a weeks but yeah as you said, I need to understand how my body will react to extra test, I will do 500 mgs.
Also, I have a small gyno issue,so instead of arimidex can I take letro and lastly, should I do hcg shots in this cycle or keep it for next one?
Thanks again