-1 Upcoming cycle (need advice on keeping it a safe and smooth cycle)
This will be my 3rd cycle and i will admit although my last two cycles have not been the smartest i am doing my absolute best to make sure this cycle goes smoothly. I am 23 175lb i am not sure of my bf%. I am posting this for some advice on my cycle setup and just to get some feedback before i start.
My first cycle was
week 1-12Test E 500mg
NO PCT because i was stupid as fuck and did not research enough
2nd cycle was
Week 1-12 test E 750
week 1-8 winny 50mg ED
pct week 15-18 clomid 50/25/25
nolva week 15-19 nolva 40/20/20/20
I did not give my self enough time to recover between these two prior cycles and after pct of my last cycle i was not in good shape as my free test was extremely low due to poor pct only taking clomid at 50/25/25. I am getting blood work this week and if it is not where it needs to be i will be putting a hold on this cycle until everything is good. I feel great and it has been 1 year since my last cycle. so here is my next cycle.
week 1-4 Dbol 40mg ED
week 1-12 Test Cyp 625mg weekly split into Mon/thur 312.5mg
week 1-10 deca 425mg weekly split into Mon/thur 212.5mg
week 3-12 hcg 500 iu weekly split into Mon/thur 250iu
week 1-12 adex .25 e3d or eod
PRAMI ON HAND
PCT
Clomid 100/100/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
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Looking for CO-signs after already making up your mind you WILL carry on!.... no reason for you to be here just wasting our guys time and efforts to steer you right....... go find a co-sign board son........... BOOOOOOM!!
Dang bro,
U got some really excellent people below trying to give you the very best advice and u r just pissing all over everyone. Because YOUR MIND IS MADE UP is meaningless to the membership of this site. U think cause you wanna fucking do something u shouldn't that U are gonna COERCE folk into telling u how to do it? "I'm gonna do it no matter what you guys say so you might as well cave in and help me." Doesn't seem to be working so far. You keep it up and eventually you will attract the attention of the site MODs. That will be the last thing u remember about eroids.
Peace,
GearHead
boom. +1
peoplelike you with this attitude is why vets of this site stay away, very immature responses......now get too fuk mouth on a stick. lmao.
RustyhookerSays 22 on your page. Couple cycles and still light.
100% food ! Thats your problem youngster. Post current REAL stats and pix or no help.
Cycle is gonna be another error
I remember a time when if you wanted something you actually worked for it; there were no shortcuts or instant gratification. Seems like all you younger guys think you can skip right to a high paying job; million dollar salaries, bodybuilder physiques, all without putting in any fkn work for it. There are no fkn shortcuts; even with gear you still have to workout and eat right in order to see any improvements. I suggest you look at some of the posts here from more of you young guys who have done huge stupid cycles and have not gained even 2 pounds of fkn muscle. I know you may think you have all the answers but you don't ask the same questions. Do your time in the kitchen and in the gym; wait until you have reached your genetic potential.THEN you will be ready but before that you are just pissing away a life lesson.
nick4sure1I understand and if i had the answers to everything i would not be asking for opinions on this forum. Dont bash me for trying to do something right and trying to seek advice, i figured i would get allot of guys like you thinking they can tell everyone how to run their lives. Thank you for your input though.
OK, point taken, We gave you advice and you don't want to hear it. How about this, since you are proving that you only want people to cosign your cycle and you are going to do it anyways lets make a bet;
Do whatever you want, and when you fuck yourself up you can bounce back here on your newly found man-tits and kiss everyone's ass for help because you were too young and naive to realize we were trying to help you and make you see the truth. Then beg for help because you fried your endocrine system to a point of no return.
Truth is if you jump from a plane without a parachute you will die; care to try it to see if I'm lying or telling you how to live your life? If you can't accept tough love and truth then you are going to have a long and hard life filled with disappointment and failure.
nick4sure1Im sure there is a way to take steroids and NOT fry your endocrine system to a point of no return. I agree this wont be the smartest decision of my life but its something i want and i am definitely going to do alot more research before jumping into it again.
I'm trying to tell you; when you are young and cycle you are playing russian roulette; there are safe ways to do it and that is when your body has matured enough to be able to take the abuse. At this point it is not safe. You are young; you will do your cycle and gain nothing, you will then blame the gear and go straight into another cycle adding more and more mg's. you will once again fail and repeat this over and over again. By the time you find out what you did wrong; it is too late.
nick4sure1so is it against the rules to direct somebody like me in the direction of a safe cycle. Instead of flaming me and telling me not to do a cycle which i understand but i have made up my mind.
OK then, take care of yourself and good luck to you, I am now done here.
No bashing, just no AAS advice under 25 plain and simple. No problem in learning about it, but we will not play part in sabotaging your endocrine system. If you are looking for advice on a cycle then you will need to find another AAS site that doesn't mind.
nick4sure1serious question, whats the difference between a 23 year old and a 25 year old besides the obvious. I meen i am sure people of all ages make stupid decisions.
The male endocrine system is in the final stages of development in those years. While I have yet to find a medical study that says a specific age, it is believed that 25 is when it has fully developed. Study the endocrine system and see all part involved, then think about all the synthetic hormones you are putting into your body to disrupt the natural process. Yes people make stupid decisions, myself included. I was to young when I started, but I didn't know any better. Had I known then I would have waited. Even though I have a better understanding now, it still is a great concern what I'm putting into my body and the effects it will have on me. The day you stop caring is when things take a turn for the worse. So is there a major difference between 23 and 25? Maybe, maybe not, but is it worth the risk?
nick4sure1I understand but i am willing to take that RISK, like i said i am not running this cycle until my bloods are 100% back to normal. the reason i fucked up so bad on my first cycle is because i was afraid to ask for advice knowing i was just gonna get flamed and now im here TRYING to do this right and you guys are turning your backs on me which i can sort of understand.
Anyone with morals won't help I'd feel horrible if u hurt yourself or had to be on trt for life. Everyone is looking out for your best interest sometimes we can be our own worse enemy
No flaming or turning of the backs it's just simple protocol we follow here at eroids, sorry.
Wow this is getting insane with u young guys. First steriods aren't the answer they are just a small piece of the puzzle. Your body hormone are not fully developed. The risks u are taking is huge. Steriods are used for when a person reaches there natural potential not a short cut. At your age your natural test levels are thru the roof. If u can't gain at your age then your diet and training are off. So really u are wasting the best years of your life by using steriods. It's sad if u keep goin get on the trt forums bc that's where u will be in the next few years
nick4sure1Thank you for the advice but my mind has been made up and when my bloods are normal i will be running a cycle maybe i need to do more research because i agree my cycle is way to advanced for me.
Stop asking for advice; You are wasting our time here and no one is going to help you. There are other sites out there that could care less for your health you could sign up on and they will gladly tell you how to destroy yourself.
nick4sure1Thank you for your concern, but i will not stop asking for advice just because some random guy on a forum told me to. Again thank you for your concern and i understand what your saying.
23 years old---no gear advice for you, you have already run two shitty cycles. Hit the diet section and educate yourself on how to run a proper cycle, come back in two years and we will get you there...Your imaturity shows with the first two cycles.
nick4sure1"Ran gear as a youngster, you know when I shouldn't have" We all make mistakes including you and me. Im going to be running another cycle when my bloods are normal thanks for the concern i really do appreciate it. My diet is pretty much on point.
You sir are absolutly correct! I have made the mistakes, shut myself down spent a year on bitch meds, I have the fucking the T-shirt. Which is one more reason why I troll these posts and try to stop no it all kids from screwing up there endo systems. Your going to do what you wish, good luck---
Here's some cycle advice for you:
Weeks 1-12 4500calories/day
Weeks 1-4 Vikings 1600 calorie shake as a front loader
Weeks 1-12 bench, squat, overhead press, deadlift, dips, rows, pull-ups x2/week
Pct: 4 weeks of low volume HIT training blood and guys style
nick4sure1Thanks for the advice.
I asked you in your other post where people felt the need to dish you out advice; what is your height to go with your other stats?
nick4sure15'9"
IMO you DO NOT need gear.. your 22 years old, are you trying to force yourself in TRT? I mean dude, this is cycle three and you're adding a nor-19... you haven't ran a successful simple cycle, what makes you think your ready for the advance compounds... you're not bro... you're already building another cycle and this one isn't even right... toss these ideas into the trash and forget about gear right now, grab yourself some test boosters and you'll be just fine... no gear until your 25...
nick4sure1How is my cycle "not even right" ? Many people have taken this exact cycle maybe test/deca dosages a little different.
the cycle is right, just not for you bro....
no advice from me at 5'9 175 at unknown bf and your age in profile says your 22 I hope for your sake your trolling bro. your have no business running anabolics in any way. hopefully you can get bloods done and see how bad you've hurt yourself hopefully not too much damage has been done and you were able to bounce back naturally. hit the training correctly and get a consistent diet high protein moderate good carb and you'll grow just fine. and in a few years when your at 200 naturally and a little older then you come back to ASs and we'll see if your ready then good luck my friend and didn't mean to come off too harsh/rigid to you but your health is all you have and you only live once.
nick4sure1Not trolling at all.I have got bloods done already and i am looking pretty good to be honest. I will post my new bloods asap. I understand your concern and i appreciate it allot, but when my bloods are normal i will be running a cycle. I agree i think i am jumping way ahead of myself into an advanced cycle that could potentially fuck me up for the rest of my life. I might just run Test and an oral like anavar.
mperkinsssX2. if youre not recovering well then either you will have to talk to your doc or maybe run a Full blown PCT to try and get everything back before you go on TRT if everything is shit