They were the first HGH I ran. They worked really well, without much bloat and my body fat dropped quickly on 3iu a day. I've run Hyges, Rips and Elis and Eli's are the best bang for the buck.

I'm running them now, my first time on, hgh. It's been about 7 weeks and I love it. I did get super bloated, started at 2iu, jumped to 4-5, (don't do that...duh) holding at 2.5 and holding. Bloat is gone, but di have hand tingling and mild carpel tunnel.

I'm running them right now! I have not tested but have gotten all the symptoms we usually hear about. Hand getting numb in fact I'm getting pretty intense CTS right now on my left arm. Helping my joints and def helping with fat loss overall. I am saving up for pharma but in the meantime it's not at all a bad choice.

They usually test pretty decent, but not as high as the Hyges. I've had good success with them.

Def bunk don't buy that crap. Pharma grade only bro! Save monday for awhile if needed but buying generics is flushing ur money down the toilet.