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+ 32 Primobolan What I Know

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Primobolan (Methenolone Enanthate) is a mild anabolic steroid with extremely low androgenic effects. Primobolan can be combined with virtually any steroid but is best used for cutting. It is know to be "the safest of all steroids", it is not harsh on your liver and estrogen related side affects are almost none also high blood pressure is rarely seen as this is usually related to high estrogen levels. Because of the enanthate ester you need to inject twice a week to keep plasma levels even. Also do to the long ester it will take 4-6 weeks for primo to fully kick in and I recommend running it for 16 weeks. While you can run it for a shorter time,once you see the results you'll want to run it longer. The results from primo are quality muscle mass that will last long after your cycle is over, with proper diet and training you will retain up to 90% of your gains. Speaking of diet you can run primo at a lower calorie intake than you would on bulking cycle. High protein(I run twice my body weight) mid range carbs and low fat. Also lots of cardio I do cardio twice a day, after my workout then after dinner I run at the track for 3 miles this combination along with the primo really tightens up my mid section. Arnold's ability to keep such a tinny waist line was credited to primo.
What you can expect from primo: The best way I can describe the results is... It leans you out and makes you hard as concrete it rounds everything off also muscle striations become extremely evident. Your chest becomes broader and thicker, the line down the middle of your chest becomes very pronounced. Your shoulder get capped off, what that means is it looks like someone took a softball cut it in half and put it on your should. Your back becomes like a cobra along with a small waist line this makes your back look even bigger. Leg muscles become extremely defined, when I walk or better when I run you can see every muscle in my leg working to do that motion, (the best way I have found to describe this is in Rocky III when Rocky is running on the beach in slow motion).Now lets talk about dosages, 400mg/w is the lowest you should go. But the magic number is 600mg/w. The jump from 400 to 600mgs is dramatic but the jump from 600mg to 800mg/w is minimal and in my opinion does not warrant the cost, to me it's like throwing money out the window. Because of the cost of primo some people and me sometimes do to cash flow problems can't afford to run 600mg for 16 weeks. In this case I recommend running primo at 400mg for 8 weeks then bump it up to 600mg for an additional 8 weeks. This will save you around $200 for a cycle depending on how much your supplier is charging you. Last lets talk about running a primo cycle. This is where your thinking must change, you were taught to always use test as a base but with primo, primo is the base. You should run primo at 600mg/w along with low test. I have found 250mg is more than enough, the test is only to keep your boys happy. Running test at higher dosages leads to water retention and diminishes primo's affects. Trust me on this one I have tried all types of test along with running adex to combat test sides and I have found low test is the best answer also do to low test an AI is not needed. I have ran primo,var,masteron cycle, primo var cycle, primo masteron cycle, primo winstrol(injectable and oral) cycles, primo var and winstrol(injectable) cycle. While primo and var is a great cycle, there are 2 down sides, first it will cost you a boat load of cash to run it and second due to the fact I do a lot of cardio to help bring out the primo and seeing that var makes you cramp up I am not big on running var with it. My favorite cycle and also were I make the most gains is this.
Week 1-18 250mg/w Sustanon
Week 1-16 600mg/w Primobolan
Week 10-16 50mg/d Winstrol(injectable)
Week 8-16 100mg/w NPP(to help lubricate joints from the Winstrol).
Well without going into extreme detail this is the general idea of what you can expect from primobolan. I hope I helped.

dudebro's picture

Oh yeah shit, I've heard that about that brand also. Any thoughts on this idea that's been going around lately running a low dose of primo year round along with trt?

haapinessgains's picture

That castor oil is like one step thinner than molasses. It's gonna be an hour long process to load 2-3 cc 3 times a week and IM it. Not to mention being on Gh too. My poor hands are gonna fall of. Won't have to train forearms anymore ...

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dudebro's picture

Damn that sucks. I had 2 different brands, one was eo and the other was mct. Both easily flowed through a 27g.

Pale's picture

There really is no reason to front load it IMO, plus you will soon realize that (EDIT) is extremely thick oil. Good times

haapinessgains's picture

I did google translate last night and saw that they use castor oil as the oil base :/ would rather it be MTC or peach oil but hey at least I'll know the most important part is inside. The primo! Just curious, why would you not suggest a front load? I guess my first 2 weeks dosage isn't really considered a "full front load" but just a about 200 mg more that my remaining 18 weeks.

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Pale's picture

Pretty good post and I agree. I like primo eod with just 200 mg per week of test cyp. A very good cycle with very positive gains along with no sides. I will bump the primo up this time tho to see for myself

zeusmarada's picture

@Darth Pale, when you do primo eod for a cycle, what dose do you use? Low? (as in, 150mg Primo E eod for a weekly dose around 450mg "ish"?) or higher? (like 300mg eod that puts your weekly around 900 "ish"?)

Regarding Primo E, I've heard some fellas like a Sunday/Wednesday pin of 300mg Primo E for anywhere from 14 to 20 week 600mg weekly blast.

Others use lower doses (350mg to 450mg per week for "cutting cycles").

I'm not a body builder, just a guy looking to be in better health, so I don't think the body building cycles will pertain to me. However, I simply ask you for your experience with Primobolan to add to this incredible database of info at eroids. So thank you for your share!

Lastly, I know this thread is now three years old as I comment here, but I read it months ago when searching for Primobolan. @logan did a fantastic job with this thread.

Pale's picture

The (EDIT) amps are filled pretty heavy. 1.3ml or so on average. So if it is truly 100mg per ml my dosage at EOD is 390-520. I am going to bump it up and see if I really notice a difference.

For us older guys that cruise or are HRT primo fits in like a glove. You really do not have to add in any kind of AI or other blocking agents.

big JO's picture

If running TRT, will Primo screw up your blood work and tip off the endo that you are doing something else?

Pale's picture

For me my bloods looked pretty decent on 1 amp EOD range but bumping up another two amps a week has my cholesterol levels a little out of whack. At least it appears to be a possible culprit. But it should not effect your testosterone levels.

zeusmarada's picture

@Darth, do you cruise year 'round on low dose Primo when not blasting? If yes, what dosage per week?

zeusmarada's picture

@Darth Pale, thank you for sharing. You rock.

One more question: what weekly dose do you cruise at, both Test and Primo?

haapinessgains's picture

What dosage of test do you still run with the primo? My doctor has me on 200mg test e. Well actually 250 but I only take 200 mg. keep the extra 50 pharma for a rainy day. Haha.

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Danavar's picture

I just got roasted on another thread by trolls bc they don't believe docs prescribe higher TRT doses like this. Mine is 280 but SHBG is high and hard to get free T in range. Also got called a steroid junkie on eroids for asking questions about primobolan lmao!!

Pale's picture

200 cyp, and I could probably get away with lower

ripped56's picture

Lots of faked Primo is out there. Be careful. Great compound if you can find it.

BEASTZ6's picture

Primo is safe, but it is weak. I would only run it at 1,000 mg/wk. It gets kind of pricey though.

MONK's picture

Great read, worth a bump ;) ++

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Thunder1's picture

Logan, I just ordered primo 400mg and winnt 50 mg caps So I get the 600 mg a week for the primo How much winny should I take a day? Also should I start taking them the same day? Should I also get a clomid and Nova?

logan's picture

Caps are max 6 weeks due to stress on your liver. I would run the caps last 6 weeks at 50mg/day. Also take milk thistle to protect your liver.

Thunder1's picture

so run the primo alone for the beginning then add the winny? Also the caps are 50mg can I take them once a day or should I take it twice a day?

K.Bear210's picture

6' 225lbs and a realistic 10%bf - currently running 400mg primo every 5 days which puts me at about 700mg/w and about 350-400mg Test E. per week. So i'm pretty much following this protocol with a bit higher test. Trying to take in about 4,000 calories a day despite 3 days a week doing manual labor which is about 4 hours of slow cardio on those days. Coming up on week 3 now so looking forward to having it kick in.

Protein is just around 300 grams per day. You think that is enough?

logan's picture

Everything looks good.except the protein. I would like to see at least 1 and a half times your body weight in protein minimal. So up the protein to minimal 350 grams a day.Keep me informed how you like it. It should be fully kicked in by week six.

K.Bear210's picture

Yea I'll try and get it up there a bit more, unfortunately it'll likely be powder which I always feel I'm just pissing out anyway but oh well.

Joshua's picture

primobolona is basicaly nandrolona with no sides...minimal water retention, polished, tighter look. you will look bigger by the way it your muscles look.

char6656's picture

Excellent write up!!!!!!! If a person was going to follow your plan with Oral Primo(have already bought) what is the effective dose in your opinion. I was thinking 150 mg - 200 mg a day. I would split this into 3 doses of like 50 mg daily.

logan's picture

Even though primo is the "safest of all steroids" we still need stats and past cycle history. I am HUGE on giving these stats so we can give the best advice possible so please post your stats on your home page. As for your question,if it is your first time I think 150mg/d is enough, and remember protect your liver.

logan's picture

I wouldn't the water retention will greatly reduce the affects of primo. While it could be used in a bulking cycle to produce quality muscle. It is best used in cutting cycles.

Colossus_fit's picture

good post+1

logan's picture

Its not a miracle drug. As with any AAS the harder you train and the better the diet the better results you get.

Enyeart's picture

600-800mgs is a good range to go for. i love the look primo gives you. polished, tight, and more quality. run it too low and you will not see its true effects.

Trenabolic's picture

I love primo and agree with most stated. The part I don't agree with is the dosage and this might have to do with individual body weight. Threw my exp anything under 800mg a wk would be a waste of money. The true beauty that is primo comes out at 800mg and up at a out week 8. I also love running var along side primo but I ain't runing no marathon when I do cardio.

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logan's picture

Yes dosage does differ but for a human being 600 is good. Your are a fuckin beast.LOL(complete compliment) By the way I am going to take your advice from way back and mix the primo with my winstrol(less pinning)Thanks

Trenabolic's picture

Lol try it bro you might just like it.

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park's picture

+1

johnnyb5309's picture

worth running tren a for the first 6 weeks?\ to pack on some mass while the primo kicks in?

logan's picture

The vets on here will tell you I am not a big fan of tren to begin with. PM me and I'll give you some suggestions for a mild but sick lean cutting cycle.

Xrated's picture

Fr sent. I would like to hear this.

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logan's picture

FR approved. I checked your home page and I will need complete stats and cycle history to give you the best advice possible.

DBG's picture

High protein(I run twice my body weight) mid range carbs and low fat.

That's good to know that it will still be great to run twice my bodyweight in protein...I was probably going to run a carb cycle here with this run instead of moderate carbs and low fat...I think a higher fat intake and most of the time a lower carb intake might benefit me better. Those good fats are just so beneficial for the metabolism and ACTUALLY fat burning itself at a lower cal intake. Also I am running some var with this at the end and up to a diesel pct(I'm trying to procure some torem!)...and I will keep the cardio a staple in my exercise regimen up to var time...and then back off, and supp with some taurine/potassium/magnesium to keep the cramps at bay.
It looks as though I will still be able to work in some of my power/strength training that I so covet these days, as the more research/reading and thinking that I am currently doing seems to give it a green light. Ahhh...I just hope I don't have unrealistic expectations.

logan's picture

There is a reason primo is called the Rolls Royce of steroids. You won't be disappointed. PM me with updates when you start your cycle, I would love to hear your progress.

DBG's picture

Rolls Royce...lol, yeah that sounds like me. I want the best or nothing!!!

logan's picture

You will be very pleased! Keep me updated.