posted Thu, 11/08/2012 - 04:35
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Looking for some advice or experience w test prop. Im on my tenth day injecting test prop...and i feel nothing. Absolutely nothing. Im beginning to wonder about the quality of the gear. Im assuming it shouldnt take this long but wondering if theres anyone out there that it takes a while to kick in...im not sure where to go from here....this isnt my first cycle but it is with prop. There is pretty bad pip but im assuming thats from the ba in the oil...any answers or help would be great. Thanks...also its from a highly rated source on here but currently i cannot contact them
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QUIT with the crap attitude in here please! i see no reason for it the OP is being polite enough for me.
Nice job pulling it back on line raider... sense prevails once more +3 brother for good advice.
I dknt see anything ive said that needed a neg response. Im gettn ripped on my weight but its low because its a weight class and ive taken about a yr to get down to it. Previously my cycles were for bulk and i could run 190 no problem on moderate cycles. This time i was just looking for strength simple as that. All my previous cycles have been bulking ones always with test e or c and sometimes another compound. (eq; tren, winstrol) not all together. Not sure why thats gettn ripped apart.
Thats what i read too. I have never run it either so starting low would let me see how it affects me if at all. Ill probably run it 4 wks at the last 4 wks of my cycle. So far uve been a ton of help thanks
Was goin to run @50 mg/day. And since ill probably run it no more than 5-6 wks at most. I know 50 is on the lower side but like i said i can bump it up if minimal results
I should be able to. Id have to do the math quick. But ya. Ive also got anavar i was goign to throw in. Thats why i wanted the test low initially incase that and the anavar blew me up where i couldnt cut enough to make weight
Been 4 yrs since me last one. I run about 175ish. Biggest was 200 on test n tren. Just been eating cleaner and cutting for weight class
Wants to be mass monster as posted below...yes dudes tall n boney. Ten cycles...5-10...higher bf and 165. BS....
Said i DONT want tk be mass monster at this point. Trying to limit weight gain
Also my bf is an educated guess but thats was when i was 175 so its a little less
So ten cycles...and ya pisted no test base. Tren a solo.
No dude. I said tren ace was the the only short ester ive run. Test is always my base
Ok bud. Here it is then im out simply because its been Hella q n a and the story gaps suck. You want help but reading thri ALL the replies...its not adding up. Your dose it too damn low. Second prop still takes two Weeks to kick in. its not magic juice. And if your trying to "make weight" given your stats that keep changing.....you'd be 145lbs cut which says outright that you dont need gear. You need discipline and research. Your height and cant keep cut is all about FOOD. I think your trolling. Or lazy. Either way....good luck. You dont need steroids to fix your errors.
No man. I appreciate u readin thru all my shit and tryin to help. But my weight where it is now is as low as ive been in a long time bcuz ive been eating better and cardio a shit ton. I get it. The prop dose is too low. I can up it. 165 is my lowest. I run 175ish. Bulking cylce i can hit 200. Thats why it fluctuates. Used to lift for size. Now i wanted to see what i could dp in a certain weight class. Thats all
Then as learning tool....fill us in early....get whole advice column done fast n right first time. Domestic prop comes in 2 days. Up your dose. Keep ai on hand. Food n cardio makes the fight weight classes.
Thanks. Yep my bad shoulda put all that shit in one post but even thru this crap i got help so i appreciate it. Turned in too way bigger of a deal than it needed to. Some of thats on me. But again thanks for the info.
The only problem here is i need to up my prop dosage. All the opinions are relatively the same and a lot of help. Not sure why u need to feel like pickin apart all my posts and make assumptions. U were offerin help earlier not sure why ur mood changed
Ya....dude needs to fill us in. odd info is why i jumped in here.
Ya i didnt want to start knockin the gear i just wasnt sure how tk go about it. Ill bump it up but then my cycle length gets about cut in half which sucks. Im not necessarily looking for mega gains out of it weight wise because i need to stay low but i was looking for a mid point where i can take enough to see strength gains and not gain enough weight where i have to diet and carxio my ass off just to make weight
Ten cycles and you dont have enough for a full cucle and no knowledge of how prop needs to run.
Sounds like Troll
Only short actjng ester ive run was tren ace. Never run prop. Wanted tk see how it would affect me without adding too much weight. I have no problem upping the dose if thats what it takes. 75 mg eod didnt seem too low. I can still get 8 wks out of it if i up it. 8 wks isnt really too short
You have good teaching skills bro. We used to do lots of forums together. Try n educate if possible. Halflife is the whole big deal on a cycle :). Agree...Ed dose is most level.
I can understand that i just was using the 300 as a reference...so u think maybe im not feelin anything because 75mg eod is too low? Enough to not even feel anything? Libido strength etc?
Prop does not have a per week dose. Prop is dead and pissed out in 48hrs. You cant add up dead material in a cycle. 150eod is a flat 300 regardless...til you stop then in two days its 0. Its like adding in last months cycle.
STATS!! No stays....no help. It used to be a rule with the vets...what happened?
Ya sorry. 30 yr old. 5'10" 165lbs. For competition sake. 10 cycles history. Run test e+c, eq, sust, tren ace. Winstrol oral. Proper pct w all. and diet. Depends on season but right now fairly clean cuz tryn to keep weight where its at. I am lean so i can afford tk cheat
Also, im also lookong to see if anyones had prop kick in this late? Skme people have but it seems very rare...thanks for the quick replies so far. This board is the best for information
I wouldnt say 300mg/wk is too low. Guys run 50mg daily and thats only 350/wk. I wouldnt think 300mg is low enough to feel nothing...
i seen good gains off 300mg a wk, never used it tho.. i bet 150 would really blow me up
How much and how often are you injecting?
75mg 4x wk. I know thats only 300mg/wk and thats low but i wanted to start at that and see how it affected me...have anavar i was going to throw in later. Goal was strength without packin on too much weight
But im seriously feeling NOTHING. Any chance its just not kicked in yet? Ten days in....
You could be a little low in your dosing. Judging by your extensive friend list, I think I can make a pretty good guess on your source, and If I'm correct on my guess, I don't think that your gear is bad-that source carries a good rep. I'd just up your dosage from 75 mg to 100 mg eod or ed. until you feel it and then back it down.
Thanks for the help. Ya i didnt want to throw source names out in case its my own fault not taking enough but j was just curoius. Ive seen a lot of helpful replies so far so thats awesome. I appreciaye u guys answerkn my questions and helpin me out. One more question. This prop has bad pip...if i up the dosage its gonna get worse. It kills my quads. Ventro not too bad....ibu helps but any advice on limiting the pip?
I think we all react differently to different gear. Click on Fast48's name and look at his forum posts. He has an excellent post on reducing and avoiding pip.
if you want strength without much gain go with tren a.. that's only if your ready to use that kinda compound.
Run tren a before. Loved it. Just wanted to try prop
i got ya.. i love prop, try going 150mg eod..
Site rotation. Quads,gluteal, ventro g. My diet is fairly strict right now bcuz im tryng to stay in a weight class for powerlifting....but my strength hasnt increased at all. Im running a decently low dose but i expected to feel something. At least libido up or overall sense of good feeling like i get when ive run test cyp or enth. Just expected it quicker...
ah man i gained 10 lbs in less than two weeks off prop.. hows your diet and everything else going? how are you pinning
Also its not that im trying to cut weight just not trying to become a mass monster like i used to do...im really startn to wonder about it tho bcuz most people say within wk or so u should already be feelin it...
what size needle are you using?
if you are fatter than an average person it could be the needle is not getting to your muscle, so you could be injecting into fat. that means the oil just sits there and does not get absorbed by the body
Using 1.5 inch pin and im probably 10-12% bf. I know im deep enough injectjng
You will absorb it with subq injection. There was recently a study done in a medical journey that showed subq injections resulted in stable levels.
Hcg subq not prop!!
STEROIDS NEVER GO SUBQ! DO NOT POST GARBAGE!