posted Wed, 08/01/2012 - 16:31
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Cruise n Blast to 12 weeks cycle Q
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I've been cruising and blasting @ 100 mg of Test Cyp weekly for 4 months, however i would like to do 12 weeks of cycle with high dosage. Do I have to take a break for awhile before I proceed with 12 weeks cycle?
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AnonCan you guys explain the deffinition of Cruise and blast for me ?
I can take a guess but would rather know than assume.
tread-mI think you need to sort of begin to understand all of this a lot better. If you are on a trt does that is the cruise, the blast is when you do this cycle you speak of. Cruise is the low dose trt and blast is the high dose cycle. The effect on the body can be very very different so you need to have some conversation here and familiarize yourself with what to expect and possible sides if not doing it proper and of course discuss how to do it properly. There are many things you will need to folow in the cycle phase to make it healthy and fun without having all the negatives and then you want it to be a success and not just a step forward then a step back.
Post your stats/age with your goals for blast and cruise so we can work with specifics in terms of your questions. The question leads me to believe you are new to compounds and that means you are new to using them properly and successfully so I think we can save you some mistakes along the way.
Muscleg33kHow many weeks of blasting do you recommend?? 8 weeks?
tread-mDepends on the compounds and goals but given the goals we are talking about for you today and knowing its long ester then I'd go 12 and then run the var in that final 4 or 5 of the 12. On a short est blast down the road such as npp/prop then 8 is fine. Another great bulk run looking for additional muscle would be EQ/test and that one would need to be about 16 weeks. So many variations in all this but I say keep it simple as you learn yourself and compounds.
Muscleg33kis 50 mg of anavar per day sufficient?
tread-mThe main variable would be your bf at the time the var begins in those final weeks of blast. The lower the bf the better it works. Sufficient would question sufficient for what? Some benefit sure but at about there or 60 and up benefit begins and as you get closer to main gaol later you can increase in later runs. 50 helps though yes but really work that lean roll to get in the right place for it in the bf department. At around 12% and down the best use is evident and as you get to 10% and below true var benefit is showing up. If you are to go into carb depletion during your var run and increase your protein via meats then the "var effect" would even be greater IMO.
Muscleg33k" If you are to go into carb depletion during your var run and increase your protein via meats then the "var effect" would even be greater IMO."
Are you saying that I should be on low calories diet (500 calories deficit) in the final 4-5 weeks of 12. This diet will be consist of high protein high fat and low carbs.
tread-mNo not at all unless you actually wanted to drop weight. In your case with your goal keep those calls high via the lean meats on you 6 meal plan just having your carbs in first meal or 2 for example. In that scenario with var if you are hitting the heavier weight. (Relative to) and running the cals up via protein then you stand a good chance of dropping bf and seeing some recomp as well as get a little harder etc etc. Takes time but you build and carve yourself up one day at a time no hurries. Remmeber this is all cause and effect mostly via diet. This means if the cause is the bigger diet and the effect is the bigger you then to maintain the bigger you the diet has to stay bigger, its the yr round work that gets it done in the end.
Just noticed this guy has a run loaded in cycle plans... we really need to speak to him bro he dont know what hes doing yet... i see problems on the horizon if he does his own thing.
Muscleg33kAge: 34
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 202 lbs
BF: 15%
Check out my first cycle log
http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/trt-blast-and-cruise-cycle-to-12-weeks-...
My goal is to gain at least 25-30 lbs of muscles and most importantly, increase my strength dramatically.
Diet: 4000k calories
Get the idea of putting 25lb of muscles in one go brother... these things take time and consistancy with nutrition NOT steroids.
If you get these thing right and gain a good quality solid 5lb from your fist cycle that would be damn good going.
tread-mOk this good. I would do this personally , drop the adex to eod. There is benefit in having normal estro and I think not only do you take it too low using that high of a dose in a cruise at only 100 mg's, you also develope immunity issues to the adex a lot quicker. That will fire up flucuation. Given you are set to use it from now on if and when that begins to occur I switch over to 6.25 eod aromasin. You will not have the immune type issues with it and in fact, it actually becomes more and more effective over time. On the hcg, I would probably only use it onece in a while on cruise even if you use it at 500 split ew for the whole blast periods. In the cruise you won't have the same sort of testical atrophy as in cycle so maybe once a month hit it twice in a week type thing. I think there are some negatives with constant use there and its just not necessary .
Ok so bf is in a so so place and you're not fat so let me address the oral question on var/dbol you had in the other thread. I assume you were referring to the dual orals although coluld be injects on dbol, either way its a no. You never want 2 orals as there is toxicity occuring if and when liver enzymes change so one oral at a time is all we want our liver to endure. They are seperate goals as well usually so a dbol might be a cycle kickstart and a var close it. Dbol brings on a lack of quality IMO so using it as the kick gives plenty of time for the rest of the cycle to fix the quality issue and then you close with a high quality in the var given if diet is dialed in and bf is in check then it will help solidify muscle taken in during the cycle. In a blast and cruise cycle no real need for sbol either in that it is usually used to kickstart a cycle. Your cycle is already kicked with the trt dose you have been running. Given we need to learn the compounds one at a time and you have been on trt for some time, I'm not opposed to the var addition. I would work very hard to continue to drop the bf during the cycle working lean gains being high in food protein. So once you work those lean gains all cycle , keep carbs in check to the degree we don't drag on fat and as you get to your final 4 or 5 weeks I pull the var in at 60 mg's ed split. Again, keep the gains lean and the var does some good for you. No hurry here brother, only try one additional compound per blast so you learn your compounds and their effect on you and slowly learn the effect of the combinations. Never add 2 compounds at the same time. Referencing your question in the other forum. Nice and slow and always know the kitchen is the real goal, the real work and when its not right to goal nothing else matters.
mr127superdeeis 100 mgs a week prescribed by a doc for trt?
Just like all of us ;)
You can move into a first cycle run. 500mgs/wk for 12 Weeks. Aromasin for ai. Pins too of course.
Lol shittt.... I thoUgh he said Gh!!! Lol silly me.+1
He's a bit cryptic.. Lol! You had the hgh right though! Many think it can be run short time and that'd all.
Lol was about to hop in shower. No more helping when I am in a rush!
No worries. My damn phone autocorrects and screws me up. Lol
How long do you plan on running the Gh??? U gotta be runnin Gh for a minimum 6 months to get good benefits. And what cycle are we talking about here? To my knowledge u don't need to take a break in between a cruise and a cycle.